I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There.

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
If you’re waiting for a moment where you’re like ‘this is it’, I’m telling you, it never comes. Nobody comes on TV and says ‘things are officially bad . . . .
You said it in the thread title.
Your author said it in the OP. Almost 6 years ago.

And so I will ask you again -
What is the state of America today?
Are we collapsed or uncollapsed?
Are we fallen or unfallen?
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
You said it in the thread title.
Your author said it in the OP. Almost 6 years ago.

Perceptive!

And so I will ask you again -
What is the state of America today?
Are we collapsed or uncollapsed?
Are we fallen or unfallen?

And I will say to you again -

I can't fix your willful blindness. There's a daily litany of corruption, incompetence, and lawbreaking from the Trump regime, and a doddering, insane old man, supposedly the leader of the free world, screaming into his phone. The rest of the world sees. Europe and Canada no longer see us as allies, we're stretched thin militarily and China is watching because they know how weakened we are. But hey, as long as you're fine.

MAGA soldier on, though, having invested too much of their integrity to admit they've been radicalized. The projection is real. Things they predicted Obama would do, the Trump regime has done or is in the process of doing. MAGA think they have a divine mandate on their side, but they don't. They justify a 'King David' so they don't have to look squarely at the hypocrisy, the corruption, the incompetence. And the incompetence is intentional. A hallmark of authoritarians is putting loyal incompetents in positions of authority. Loyalty is the litmus, not competence, because the loyal will stay loyal because both they and the authoritarian know they're incompetent. So yeah, put a real estate guy in charge of national intelligence. Or another real estate guy in charge of Middle East diplomacy.
 

Idolater

Popetard
Middle East diplomacy lol. The reason and the only reason we are almost in a constant hot war in the Middle East is because Israel is along with the whole wide West, our 51st state. We don't want to be over in the Middle East any more than we need to. But Israel insists on living there, and they are along with the rest of the West, the 51st state. It's a rough neighborhood, Israel's neighbors are rough, but we're not going to do nothing while they each in their turn, or in coalitions, use Israel for target practice. We're always going to be over there, defending Israel our, along with the whole West, 51st state.

And, we're not going to fight on their terms. It's always going to be on our terms. We are controlling that part of the "diplomacy", by constantly getting into "forever wars", as if there's another option in the Middle East. As if there's a better option! There is not. We can't leave them alone because they're apocalyptic many of them, and even if they're not, they'd still as soon as they could get a nuke, they'd just hurl it at Israel, immediately. Israel's the 51st state. Along with the rest of the West. We're going to protect Israel. And the best way to do that is to always be fighting on our terms, to prevent ever having to fight on theirs.

It's just the nature of the political situation over there, with all those backward, outdated, savage and barbaric pre-Christian countries, UNTIL we can occupy them, like we occupied Japan and Germany for 50 years, to morally fix them. Not to make them explicit Christians (we didn't make Japan explicitly Christian) but to make them implicitly Christian, with Christian social morals, ethics, values, principles and assumptions. Things like all men are created equal, indefeasible human rights, the wrongness of slavery and quasi-slavery, of incest, pedophilia, polygamy, rape, and many other distinctive and identifying Christian ideological markers.

You just have to force them to enshrine Western, Christian values for about 50 years, and everything will be right as rain. But that's a gigantic program that we can't afford to do rn, and there's nothing to do to stop them from metaphorically gang-raping Israel except fighting pointless endless wars with Israel's neighbors. It would be nice if the rest of our Western allies, each of whom we consider our 51st state and brothers, would help out more with this because Israel is their brother too, not just our brother.
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Middle East diplomacy lol. The reason and the only reason we are almost in a constant hot war in the Middle East is because Israel is along with the whole wide West, our 51st state. We don't want to be over in the Middle East any more than we need to. But Israel insists on living there, and they are along with the rest of the West, the 51st state. It's a rough neighborhood, Israel's neighbors are rough, but we're not going to do nothing while they each in their turn, or in coalitions, use Israel for target practice. We're always going to be over there, defending Israel our, along with the whole West, 51st state.

And, we're not going to fight on their terms. It's always going to be on our terms. We are controlling that part of the "diplomacy", by constantly getting into "forever wars", as if there's another option in the Middle East. As if there's a better option! There is not. We can't leave them alone because they're apocalyptic many of them, and even if they're not, they'd still as soon as they could get a nuke, they'd just hurl it at Israel, immediately. Israel's the 51st state. Along with the rest of the West. We're going to protect Israel. And the best way to do that is to always be fighting on our terms, to prevent ever having to fight on theirs.

It's just the nature of the political situation over there, with all those backward, outdated, savage and barbaric pre-Christian countries, UNTIL we can occupy them, like we occupied Japan and Germany for 50 years, to morally fix them. Not to make them explicit Christians (we didn't make Japan explicitly Christian) but to make them implicitly Christian, with Christian social morals, ethics, values, principles and assumptions. Things like all men are created equal, indefeasible human rights, the wrongness of slavery and quasi-slavery, of incest, pedophilia, polygamy, rape, and many other distinctive and identifying Christian ideological markers.

You just have to force them to enshrine Western, Christian values for about 50 years, and everything will be right as rain. But that's a gigantic program that we can't afford to do rn, and there's nothing to do to stop them from metaphorically gang-raping Israel except fighting pointless endless wars with Israel's neighbors. It would be nice if the rest of our Western allies, each of whom we consider our 51st state and brothers, would help out more with this because Israel is their brother too, not just our brother.
Nobody would give a crap about the Middle East if not for oil.
Solve the challenge of cold fusion.
Solve the challenge of electric power storage.
Solve the challenge of electric power transmission.
... and we can tell them to all go pound sand.

Or, stop pretending we give a crap about morality and go in and kill all the Arabs and steal their oil. 😁
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Perceptive!



And I will say to you again -



MAGA soldier on, though, having invested too much of their integrity to admit they've been radicalized. The projection is real. Things they predicted Obama would do, the Trump regime has done or is in the process of doing. MAGA think they have a divine mandate on their side, but they don't. They justify a 'King David' so they don't have to look squarely at the hypocrisy, the corruption, the incompetence. And the incompetence is intentional. A hallmark of authoritarians is putting loyal incompetents in positions of authority. Loyalty is the litmus, not competence, because the loyal will stay loyal because both they and the authoritarian know they're incompetent. So yeah, put a real estate guy in charge of national intelligence. Or another real estate guy in charge of Middle East diplomacy.
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Were we collapsed or uncollapsed?
Were we fallen or unfallen?
 
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