Is The Physical Realm Analogous To A Simulated Reality?

[VladtheDestroyer]

In my experience most Christians and especially my fellow YECs, would agree with me that it is.

Assuming that is the case here on TOL, my next question would be:

What is the purpose of this simulation?

 

[ttruscott]

The purpose of this simulation is to return the lost sheep, HIS sinful elect, to HIM as heaven ready, able to start the heavenly marriage. Living with the reprobate who can never return helps to fulfill this purpose in HIS prodigal sons, Matt 13:27-30.

Choosing to be God minded and holy speeds up, hastens, the day this simulation ends:
2 Peter 3:11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness 12 as you anticipate and hasten, (speed up) the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will be destroyed by fire and the elements will melt in the heat.

 

[Derf]

In my experience most Christians and especially my fellow YECs, would agree with me that it is.

Assuming that is the case here on TOL, my next question would be:

What is the purpose of this simulation?

Are you saying that WE are simulations, too? Do we actually interact with other real humans in the simulation, or am I the only real person in my simulation?

If the people are all real, and the physical realm is simulation, are the animals real or simulated? Are the Devil and his angels simulations?

If humans are the only real things, then the reason would have to be that God didn't want to waste real stuff on the human experiment. But Paul said when Christ returns, we shall be changed, and the dead will be made alive again. If it is simulation, it seems like even our bodies are simulation.

 

[JudgeRightly]

The theory that we live in a simulation is evidence for the universe being created by a higher Being.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Are you saying that WE are simulations, too?

No! Absolutely not!

Do we actually interact with other real humans in the simulation

Yes!

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

The purpose of this simulation is to return the lost sheep,

But there were no lost sheep when God first created Adam or the initial state of the simulation.

 

[Derf]

But there were no lost sheep when God first created Adam or the initial state of the simulation.

Now you've done it. You'll have to wade through his pre-existent souls garbage.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Now you've done it. You'll have to wade through his pre-existent souls garbage.

Oh man. Thanks for the warning.

But you just correctly pointed out a couple things I should clarify.

Yes we are all real. We are spiritual beings that for some reason, God decided to interact with us firstly via this simulated environment of the physical realm. That is what I mean in my OP.

 

[Derf]

Oh man. Thanks for the warning.

But you just correctly pointed out a couple things I should clarify.

Yes we are all real. We are spiritual beings that for some reason, God decided to interact with us firstly via this simulated environment of the physical realm. That is what I mean in my OP.

Then I think my suggestion is valid. The simulated realm would be used because the realm would need to be destroyed to conquer sin and death and the corruption that those would bring to the realm.

I'm not in agreement with your supposition, since that would suggest that we are "spiritual" beings that aren't intimately connected with our physical bodies. Such would eliminate the need for the resurrection of the dead.

 

[Idolater]

Isn't a simulated reality analogous to the real physical realm? I don't understand how it goes the other way though.

iow if a simulated reality is analogous to the real physical realm, how is the physical realm analogous to a simulated reality? It's circular and absurd to me.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Then I think my suggestion is valid. The simulated realm would be used because the realm would need to be destroyed to conquer sin and death and the corruption that those would bring to the realm.

Yes but again, there was no sin and death at the beginning of Genesis. After Adam sinned and ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, the initial parameters or "rules" of the simulation had to be changed.

But the purpose of this changed simulation surly was the same as the first.In other words, I think it must have been changed to maintain it's original purpose.

But what was that purpose?

I'm not in agreement with your supposition, since that would suggest that we are "spiritual" beings that aren't intimately connected with our physical bodies. Such would eliminate the need for the resurrection of the dead.

That's probably a good point. But it doesn't necessarily preclude this "world" from being a simulated reality..as spiritual beings, our natural state is not one that requires physical eyes to see. No?

 

[Derf]

Yes but again, there was no sin and death at the beginning of Genesis. After Adam sinned and ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, the initial parameters or "rules" of the simulation had to be changed.

But the purpose of this changed simulation surly was the same as the first.In other words, I think it must have been changed to maintain it's original purpose.



That's probably a good point. But it doesn't necessarily preclude this "world" from being a simulated reality..as spiritual beings, our natural state is not one that requires physical eyes to see. No?

Why would you equate us with God in that way? He's invisible, but we are made in His image. So whatever we are, it seems to be visible ("image") by nature. And no, our "natural state" is not invisible. Adam was visible from the time he was created, even though he wasn't alive yet.
Genesis 2:7 KJV — And the LORD God formed man ("Adam" in Hebrew) of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man (Adam) became a living soul.

If the physical realm is a simulation, then we are made of that same stuff (dust of the ground). If the simulation ends, we end with it, since we are made of it. But if the stuff is real, then we can be lifted out of the one realm and placed in another (like Enoch). And if the stuff of the realm is destroyed, we can be saved, because it just requires some of the stuff to be moved out of the realm before the destruction.