Arthur Brain
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Anywhere that doesn't supply food, toiletries or medicine in context of a lockdown. I don't make light of the significant impact that such measures have on businesses, especially smaller ones either.
Major spike in business bankruptcies due to lockdowns
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Arthur Brain
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Rather, I don't buy into some data you put up as if it's sacrosanct.
So, you insist on sticking your head in the mud - I understand.
Arthur Brain
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Nope, you don't.
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No, they don't! Compare the LONG TERM effects between California and Florida. You are oblivious to facts.
Trying to compare and small island nation (with a entire population less than NY city) to the USA is completely invalid in almost every way.
I would not do ANYTHING because China does it. Their lockdown was horrific.
Where do you get your facts from?
I was not suggesting that you do it Because China did it. Only presenting it as evidence that it works.
NYT good enough for you?
china-covid-lockdown.html
Disease still spreading over a year later. No change.
You're right. Psychologists could study the depths of your ignorance for decades and still not get to the bottom of it.
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No, it does not "work". We do not use evil for "good".
If you believe ANY news coming from China, you are very dumb.
Arthur Brain
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That was almost funny...
Please read the article. Seriously. They locked down again because of a handful of cases. Hard to claim that their methods didn't work.
They are welding people into their apartments over a handful of cases? Sorry to hear someone is swallowing CCP propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
The best way to examine lockdowns is to compare apples to apples. Florida and New York are both populous states which are away from the border of Mexico. Florida has remained open. New York has not. Florida has fewer deaths and an even smaller proportion of deaths.
In addition, Florida has had a large migration of people coming from other states. Florida is the poster child for a state refusing to follow any lockdown rules, yet, Florida has had far fewer Covid problems.
This is the evidence that you'all are ignoring. Now, I'm not against sensible quarantine measures and Taiwan provides the best procedures for this. But they did this through a very strong border controls which were enacted in December 2019. Taiwan also never entered a lockdown like New York or many other countries.
So, what's the best method of combating the virus? Strict borders and quarantine - not lockdowns. The best model is Taiwan, but the leftists in the U.S. and the Chamber of Commerce would never agree to either one. The CCP is not the best model, Taiwan is.
A lockdown of every single person is not a sensible solution.
They are. And they did back a year ago. I know people there. It is not merely propaganda. And the reasoning is solid. Better to catch the outbreak when it is small.
here I agree- Taiwan did it right. Lockdowns are what you do when you failed to control the virus normally. A measure of last resort.
So, supposedly you know some people who are having their e-mails monitored by the government for right-think. And that is impressive why?
You are placing too much trust in people who aren't allowed to be fully candid.
China has been successful in controlling COVID, like it or not. Some of their methods are impossible in free societies. And yes they are a totalitarian country, and that is bad. Welcome to the complications of the real world. And no, I did not say it was 'impressive'- please put words into your own mouth, not mine.
This is the hint you just gave yourself that the lockdown in China is not over "a handful of cases".
1. Lockdowns work
2. Lockdowns are not the best way of dealing with the epidemic
3. This really isn't so difficult