Muslims: Stay out.

[ok doser]

Fair enough, but western civilization stems from Christianity and the liberty that comes with it.

according to the wicked, that includes the liberty to kill your child, engage in perverted behavior....

...the legitimate law...

man's law loses it's legitimacy when it conflicts with God's Law

 

[steko]

I wrote this on a social media site, and I figured that you guys might enjoy reading it:

Muslims have no place in Western civilization. You cannot be a good Muslim and a good Westerner. That's just a fact. It was true at the advent of Islam. It was true in the Middle Ages. It's true now.

The law of the Muslim "prophet" is at variance with Western laws, values, culture, etc...

...the historical facts speak for themselves. The only reason why Muslim civilization isn't threatening us to the same degree as they were from the advent of that hateful and demonic religion up through the middle ages is because they have repeatedly gotten curbstomped and technologically left in the dust by the Western world.

And even now, terrorism still finds semi-official support from Muslim political societies (e.g., Iran).

Islam always has been a threat. It is still a threat. The threat is inherent to the ramblings of their insane and rambling "prophet."

They want entrance into the western world? Then let them repudiate their violent errors and come into the Western world eating bacon and drinking beer. Otherwise? May they rot...

...Again: The historical facts speak for themselves. There may be "Muslims" who are good westerners. But by the same stroke, they are not good Muslims...

...The official policy of Muslim civilization has, traditionally and historically, always been: "Convert, die or be enslaved." Well you know what? I say that Western nations should display the same attitude to Muslims.

"Convert or stay out."...

...[In answer to an objection that Mormons don't drink beer, and vegans do not eat bacon:]...

Charles Martel didn't have to drive back hordes of invading Mormons at the Battle of Tours. Seriously. Western nations didn't have to repel the navies of the vegans at the battle of Lepanto. To Hell with Islam, with their Quran and everything that they believe and hold "sacred."

:thumb: This is true. It is one total world view against another total world view. They cannot peacefully coexist.

 

[Eric h]

Then go to Afghanistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia...your choice and witness to them in love. Where would you like your headless body sent when they don't want it anymore?

Jesus taught us to love our enemy, and we know how he died. He also prayed on the cross forgive them Father.

 

[aikido7]

Jesus taught us to love our enemy, and we know how he died. He also prayed on the cross forgive them Father.

Only in Luke.

Mark has Jesus dying in agony, but that is to be expected since Mark wrote his account during the 70s when Jews were being slaughtered in the Roman/Jewish War.

And John's Jesus is always in total control and merely announces "It is finished." The prophecies in John's view were fulfilled in Jesus's death.

However, "love your enemies" is a statement attested to in all four gospels. So we can be fairly sure this goes back to an authentic historical statement from Jesus.

 

[Traditio]

Jesus taught us to love our enemy, and we know how he died. He also prayed on the cross forgive them Father.

Note, I'm not speaking about individual Muslims. My point is a matter of political policy. It's not a good idea to let Muslims into the West. It's politically prudent to keep them out.

 

[Traditio]

The *threat* is religious extremISTS. The only way to combat religion extremists is to ban religion.

False, Rusha. I addressed this point in the OP. The history of the Islamic world proves otherwise. Islam is inherently agressive, expansionist and hostile to all non-Muslims.

Why do you think that the first crusade was necessary in the first place?

 

[Nick M]

Why do you think that the first crusade was necessary in the first place?

She doesn't care what you post, she is against Christianity and liberty. I have said it over and over here for a few years. Yet some foolishly don't think it is so, even though she clearly defends the right of sharia law to exist.

My thoughts are with Luke 6, starts by saying, love and pray for your enemies and ending with.....

Be merciful, just as also your Father is merciful.
“Stop judging and you will not be judged.
Stop condemning and you will not be condemned.
Forgive and you will be forgiven.
Give and gifts will be given to you;
a good measure, packed together, shaken down, and overflowing,
will be poured into your lap.
For the measure with which you measure
will in return be measured out to you.”

Then go to Afghanistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia...your choice and witness to them in love. Where would you like your headless body sent when they don't want it anymore?

Recopied because I am curious if Eric is ignorant about islam or a wolf.

 

[meshak]

Note, I'm not speaking about individual Muslims. My point is a matter of political policy. It's not a good idea to let Muslims into the West. It's politically prudent to keep them out.

You continually dismissing Jesus' word.

Aren't you a Christian?

 

[Traditio]

You continually dismissing Jesus' word.

Aren't you a Christian?

I fully grant Jesus' words. I just don't think that they imply that Western civilizations should be open to Muslim colonization/invasion/immigration.

 

[meshak]

I fully grant Jesus' words. I just don't think that they imply that Western civilizations should be open to Muslim colonization/invasion/immigration.

Jesus' word applies to all circumstances.

 

[Rusha]

False, Rusha. I addressed this point in the OP. The history of the Islamic world proves otherwise.

By your standard, whatever religion a religious fanatics uses to justify their terrorism should be banned from America. How will you justify the Crusades or Malleus Maleficarum?

 

[Ktoyou]

I fully grant Jesus' words. I just don't think that they imply that Western civilizations should be open to Muslim colonization/invasion/immigration.

They are two diametrically opposed views. There can be no recompense.

I lost most of this post and that never happens with a typewriter!

 

[Rusha]

She doesn't care what you post, she is against Christianity

Careful ... your nose will outweigh your head if you insist of spreading such whoppers.

and liberty. I have said it over and over here for a few years. Yet some foolishly don't think it is so, even though she clearly defends the right of sharia law to exist.

Your views are more inline with sharia law than mine are ...

 

[ok doser]

The only way to combat religion extremists is to ban religion.

want to make sure i capture this before you change it

 

[Godisgreat9]

Do all of the Christians here really think that all Muslims want to force Sharia on westerners? Goodness gracious that's ridiculous. I would know

 

[Totton Linnet]

If western politicians would learn from the bible they would save themselves a lot of heartache

Ischmael "he will be a wild *** of a man his sword against every man and every man's sword against him"

 

[steko]

Do all of the Christians here really think that all Muslims want to force Sharia on westerners? Goodness gracious that's ridiculous. I would know

No.

 

[Totton Linnet]

Do all of the Christians here really think that all Muslims want to force Sharia on westerners? Goodness gracious that's ridiculous. I would know

Hey I'm British and I am here to tell you that they very nearly got sharia on the legislature...Arabs they flee sharia in their own countries but want to set it up over here.

Barbarians

 

[Eric h]

Then go to Afghanistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia...your choice and witness to them in love. Where would you like your headless body sent when they don't want it anymore?

9/11 was WRONG.

But I believe America and Britain invading Afghanistan was the greater miscarriage of justice. Thousands of innocent Afghans died, and they had nothing to do with 9/11, they were just ordinary people like you and me.

Their families will never get justice for the loss of their loved ones, if there is no justice, that only leaves revenge. I understand the right of the Afghan people to be angry.

It appears they are no more angry than America was when they went into Afghanistan.

If America had pursued justice patiently, until they came across Bin Laden, and just take him out, then we would not be living in fear of the Afghan people.

Recopied because I am curious if Eric is ignorant about islam or a wolf.

Neither, I pray for justice and peace for all people.

 

[Rusha]

Do all of the Christians here really think that all Muslims want to force Sharia on westerners? Goodness gracious that's ridiculous. I would know

Radicals. Certainly. However, those who rely on lazy generalizations wish to pretend that all Muslims ARE radical.