Obeying Jesus' teachings or commands is requirement for salvation.

[God's Truth]

Tell me did you obey Jesus before or after you believed him?

You could obey ANYONE before or after you believe them.

Jesus said to those who did not believe that if they obeyed God's will, THEN THEY WOULD KNOW.

See John 7:17.

 

[Tambora]

Galatians 3 KJV
(3) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

 

[God's Truth]

Oh another one of those self claimed saved one.

good grief.

Whatever happened to Jesus' authority to give judgment who are saved or not?

You ruin the message you want to spread about obeying Jesus!

You ruin it because of all your other falseness.

We CAN know if we are saved now.

If Jesus makes his home with you because you obey him---THEN YOU ARE SAVED. Then you keep obeying to stay saved!

See John 14:23.

 

[Tambora]

God grace is sufficient.

 

[God's Truth]

Galatians 3 KJV
(3) Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

That is about the ceremonial work circumcision. The people used to have to do that work just to be made clean to go to the temple to worship God.

That scripture is not about NOT having to obey Jesus!

Do you really think that Paul was rebuking the Galatians for obeying Jesus too much? HA

 

[God's Truth]

God grace is sufficient.

No one enters that grace unless they confess and repent of their sins.

 

[Tambora]

That is about the ceremonial work circumcision.

It's about any work of the flesh.

 

[Tambora]

No one enters that grace unless they confess and repent of their sins.

Grace cannot be grace if it is merited. It becomes debt, not grace.

 

[God's Truth]

It's about any work of the flesh.

No it is not. It is about not having to be MADE CLEAN by doing the ceremonial works.

Again, do you really think that Paul was rebuking the Galatians for obeying Jesus too much?

 

[God's Truth]

Grace cannot be grace if it is merited. It becomes debt, not grace.

Grace means we do not have to do all these works forever just to be able to go to the temple to worship God:


The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.



It means you do not have to have a special bath and sacrifice an animal for having your menses, or for sitting where someone else had their menses.

Jesus' blood makes us clean once and for all.

It does not mean we no longer have to obey Jesus and abstain from evil!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You keep use the crèche what He did on the cross.

Why do you do that?

True Jesus' followers don't have to repeat the crèches.

All we need to know is Christianity is all about trusting in Jesus and following His teachings.

Then our sins will be wiped out.

Jesus was sent to teach us now not sin any more.

If we trust Jesus' word and strive follow His teachings, we will be cleaner and purer as a time goes.

Being saved is life long endeavor, not one time even of confession.

Did you graduate from M.I.T ?

 

[Tambora]

No it is not.

Yes, it is.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Grace means we do not have to do all these works forever just to be able to go to the temple to worship God:


The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.



It means you do not have to have a special bath and sacrifice an animal for having your menses, or for sitting where someone else had their menses.

Jesus' blood makes us clean once and for all.

It does not mean we no longer have to obey Jesus and abstain from evil!

You and Meshak are, "Two peas in a FRAUD."

 

[nikolai_42]

Everyone,

Please read all OP verses carefully.

Salvation is conditional.

If we don't love Jesus, there is no salvation.

Jesus says "if you love Me, keep my commands".

I says it all.

Can someone who isn't saved love and obey Jesus?

 

[Tambora]

Grace means

... that your salvation is entirely unmerited.
If it was merited, it would be debt, not grace.

 

[God's Truth]

You and Meshak are, "Two peas in a FRAUD."

All you have left to defend your beliefs are to insult.

Just like many of the other false religions out there.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

No it is not. It is about not having to be MADE CLEAN by doing the ceremonial works.

Again, do you really think that Paul was rebuking the Galatians for obeying Jesus too much?

You need to turn off your Laptop and go somewhere quiet and
read and study the writings of Paul. Romans through Philemon.

 

[meshak]

Can someone who isn't saved love and obey Jesus?

It is strange question.

 

[God's Truth]

... that your salvation is entirely unmerited.
If it was merited, it would be debt, not grace.

Paul was saying no works, and that is about the ceremonial works.

Paul was not saying faith with no obeying! That would be ludicrous.

Even Peter says that people misunderstand Paul, and right after Peter said that, HE WARNS US TO OBEY. See 2 Peter 3:16, 17.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

All you have left to defend your beliefs are to insult.

Just like many of the other false religions out there.

You don't listen to sound doctrine. So, insulting you is at least entertaining. Don't ya think? Oh, that's right, you don't think.