ECT Spirit of Christ, spirit of antichrist, both He and "it".

[I.S.I.T.]

If I were to preach the Spirit of Truth, which Jesus said would come in John 15:26, John 16:13 is a single individual man figure yet to come in the future you would probably think I was nuts, and rightly so. But what’s equally odd to me is how so many people have been led to believe that the spirit of a lie that was also prophesied to come, and did come as written, is believed by so many to be a single man figure yet to come in the future called “Antichrist.”

Many true prophets spoke by the Spirit of Christ which was in them (1 Peter 1:11). Just as many false prophets were forecast to speak by the spirit of antichrist (spirit of a lie) which was in them (1 John 2:18).

Both the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of a lie (spirit of anti- christ) are spoken of as “he” and “it” in scripture. Just as there is a Holy Triune in the Father, Word, and Holy Spirit (Spirit of Truth), there is also an unholy triune shown in the Dragon, beast, and false prophet spirit (or spirit of a lie, aka antichrist spirit.)

And just as there is a Father of the Word, which is Truth, so also is there a father of the lie, which is the Devil. Jesus said of the Devil in John 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

One point I want to make in this study by comparing spiritual things with spiritual is the connection between the Spirit, and the mouth (voice) given symbolized by the horn (or trumpet.) I also want to point out in this study is the connection between “it” which is the spirit of a lie, the anti christ spirit, the littlehorn and the tail of the Red Dragon found in many parts of scripture. Just as God the Father is the Father of the Spirit of Truth, or Spirit of Christ by which the true prophets spoke by; the Old Serpent the Devil is the father of “it” or the spirit of a lie by which many false prophets would speak by.

First let’s go to the beginning where we can find the mention of “it” bruising the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”

Notice the word bruise in the above verse is the strong’s number H7779. This word in the Hebrew is also shown as cover in Psalm 139:11 “If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover ( H7779) me; even the night shall be light about me.”

I believe this is also why Satan (father of lies) is shown as the “covering cherub” working in man (Adam) in Ezekiel 28:16 because the lie tries to cover up the Truth, or darken the Light of the Truth in God’s words. If our Father in heaven is the Father of the Light and children of the day, the Devil would be the opposite of that being the father of the children of the night and of darkness. (1 Thessalonians 5:5)

Keep in mind the Prince of this world is Satan, as his spirit is also known as the spirit of this world as well, as shown in Ephesians 2:2 “Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:”

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[I.S.I.T.]

Also here in 1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” Again notice John referred to the spirit of antichrist as “it”, just as anti-christ is opposed to the Truth, or the lie is anti-truth. Also notice John declares “it” was already in the world when he wrote those words.

It, the spirit of a lie, is also known as “he” just as the Spirit of Truth is known as He in scripture as well. This verse here shows the 2 opposing spirits called “he”in 1 John 4:4 “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.” Notice “it” or “he” is in the world just as we saw he is also in the children of disobedience in Ephesians 2:2.

Also notice here Jesus said “it” working in the peoples, such as kings and rulers of the world would seek a testimony from his disciples in Luke 21:13 “And it shall turn to you for a testimony.”

Now let’s prove this out further as to why the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth in John 14:17 “Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”

This confirms also the He who is in us,(Spirit of Truth) and he that is in the world (spirit of a lie) as shown earlier. He, or “it” does not know the Spirit of Truth because no lie is of the Truth as shown here in 1 John 2:21 “I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.”

Again notice the anointing of the Holy Spirit is Truth and abides in us in 1 John 2:27 “But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”

OK, now that we have established that wicked spirit was, and is already in the world, and also in the children of disobedience. Let’s confirm how “it”, the spirit of the lie is the same tail of the Red Dragon, and spirit in the littlehorn, or “he”, and antichrist spirit that was prophesied to come, and confirmed as already in the world (1 John 4:3)

Daniel 8:9-12“And out of one of them came forth a littlehorn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.”

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[I.S.I.T.]

Notice “it” the lie, or lies working in a host (many deceivers) would wax exceedingly great in the world, “it” the lie would also cast down the truth to the ground, and also notice “it” cast some of the host and stars to the ground. (symbolizing the fallen angels)

This will also help us make the connection to the tail of the red Dragon in Revelation 12:3-4 “And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

The tail symbolizes the false prophet spirit (spirit of anti-christ) that was prophesied to come and work in many deceivers as written ( 1 John 2:18, 2 John 1:7). This verse here confirms the sign of the tail being the false prophet spirit in Isaiah 9:15 “The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.”

Also we know no single flesh and blood man is physically able to cast the host and stars (angels) of heaven to the ground, but the Devil by the spirit of the lie can, and did by way of deception. Revelation 12:9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Just as “he” or “it” in the littlehorn that speaks, or antichrist spirit would also deceive the whole world and cast the truth to the ground as we saw in Daniel 8:11.

One might ask why the anti christ spirit is shown as a littlehorn. Horns in scripture often signify a show of strength like in a Prince or King, but they are also shown to signify a voice given by the spirit who controls “it”, be “it” of the Truth, or of the lie.

Notice here the horn has a voice in Daniel 7:11 “I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.” This sign of the horn being given a voice is also shown in the horn of Israel being given an opening of the mouth, or a voice in Ezekiel 29:21

The horns in scripture are also symbolized as trumpets, like in the story of the fall of Jericho you had 7 priests with 7 ram’s horns, and in the book of Revelation we see 7 angels with 7 trumpets. We also see the mention of the voices like the trumpet (horns) in scripture. Isaiah 58:1, Revelation 1:10, Revelation 4:1, Revelation 8:13.

I also believe the 7 voices like trumpets are symbolized on the Lamb of God with 7 horns in Revelation 5:6 “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”

The eyes represent how one sees, perceives, understands, and also how one interprets scripture as God’s Spirit gives us all these gifts, which all were prophesied to be in Jesus Christ as well. (Isaiah 11:2)

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[I.S.I.T.]

But the littlehorn also had eyes, but sees as a man sees (being carnally minded) but does not see as God sees (or spiritually minded). Notice here God is asked in Job 10:4 “Hast thou eyes of flesh? or seest thou as man seeth? And of course God does not see things as a man sees them.

But the spirit of this world causes men to see with eyes of flesh=judges by outward appearance, and is also carnally minded, only knowing what it knows naturally as a natural brute beast. Notice in Daniel 7:8….. behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”

So basically those who were given over to the spirit of this world would see with the eyes of flesh, having the vail of the flesh covering their minds, or be carnally minded not believing in, perceiving, or understanding the spiritual things of God (1 Corinthians 2:14).

And those who are of their father the devil, and of his spirit, also being of the world would also speak great swelling words against the knowledge of God. These would also be opposed to the Truth, as they would also boast in their own carnal knowledge and understanding much like many false teachers, false religions, false beliefs even in man’s science (falsely so-called) that is being pushed today as truth, but is really lies.

But all these would really be speaking lies dressed up like the truth, or speak as a dragon even though they may look like a lamb outwardly by appearance as shown in Revelation 13:11.

So we by our Father in heaven are given a mouth, or voice (horn) and wisdom (eyes to see and understand by the Holy Spirit) Jesus said in Luke 21:15 “For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.” Just as Jesus said we would speak with “new tongues” in Mark 16:17

But the father of this world would also give his disciples a tongue and mouth full of lies and deceit by his lying spirit working in all them, and by also having their tongues set on fire of hell by the same spirit of the little horn which as we saw earlier in Daniel was also forecast to boast great things.

Now notice what James says here in James 3:4-8 “Behold also the ships, which though theybe so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

8 But the tongue can no man tame;it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.”

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[I.S.I.T.]

So just as by One Spirit we who are in One Body of Christ speak His words by the Spirit of Truth, so too are those who are of the spirit of this world enjoined together into one body of the Beast and speak lies by the spirit of their father the Devil.

The Red Dragon empowers the body of the scarlet colored Beast by his spirit giving it a mouth to many deceivers. Notice how the power is in the tongue…. Proverbs 18:21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.”

We who are of the Lamb of God have the testimony of Jesus Christ by the Spirit of Truth dwelling in us; His words spoken by us have the power to save life for those who receive them. But those who are empowered by the Red Dragon speak lies to deceive and lead many astray into death, hell, and destruction.

Notice the Dragon gives power to the sea Beast… Revelation 13:2, Revelation 13:4

Notice in verse 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Another beast arises out of the earth, (false prophet image) and is given the same power as the first beast…Revelation 13:12 for he also spoke as a Dragon

He had power to give life (a mouth) to prop up the (inward worldly) image of the beast….Revelation 13:15

Also ten kings receive power with the beast Revelation 17:12 and they in turn give their power (voice to speak the same lies) Revelation 17:13“These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.”

Jesus said that his disciples would receive “power” from on high in Luke 24:49, which power is also in His words of Life by the Spirit of Life.

We see in the Beast and Kings a unified way of thinking,(one mind) and also a unified voice to promote their false doctrine which would also make war with the doctrine of the Lamb. But we know by the words of God who wins the war. Revelation 17:14 “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Peace and God bless

 

[patrick jane]

Good job - you put a lot of work into these posts.

 

[I.S.I.T.]

Good job - you put a lot of work into these posts.

Thank you, and glad you enjoyed it, but I had a little inspiration and guidance, If you know what I mean. LOL

 

[jamie]

Daniel 8:9-12“And out of one of them came forth a littlehorn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

The little horn was Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the "stars" were the holy people.

 

[I.S.I.T.]

The little horn was Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the "stars" were the holy people.

If you could follow the opening posts you would see the connection between "it" and the tail of the Red Dragon which represents the the false prophet spirit= spirit of antichrist, working in the "little horn".

Compare the wording in Daniel 8:9-12 to Revelation 12:3-9

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

In the above you see the Devil and his angels are cast down to the earth from heaven.

Jesus announced the timing here....

John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

 

[jamie]

Compare the wording in Daniel 8:9-12 to Revelation 12:3-7

The stars symbolize two different groups. Do you see that?

 

[I.S.I.T.]

The stars symbolize two different groups. Do you see that?

You mean per Josephs dream?

 

[I.S.I.T.]

I will add that angels are spirits, which do work in people, be they good or evil spirits. Just as it is written God makes His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire.

 

[I.S.I.T.]

Here is an example of sending evil angels (spirits) among the people....

Psalm 78:49
He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.

 

[Danoh]

"One size" does not fit all.

At times the words "spirit" and or "spirits" refer to attitudes, or frames of reference - the outlook or perspective one is looking at, and or asserting a thing, from.

As in the heart ATTITUDE the following passages are describing...

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

In the following passages, the use of the word "spirit" and "spiritual" refers to two outlooks that Paul is pointing out a sharp contrast between.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Paul is noting a contrast between two ways of looking at things - the world's spirit; or perspective; and the one given his spirit or outlook by the Spirit.

Note the contrast again...

1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

How so? In what sense?

Where they were looking at things from...

1 Corinthians 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

As a result, Paul in his writing to them had decided not to go "into the hidden wisdom of God in a mystery..." they were saved unto the glory of...he decided not to go into its details with them...because they had not progressed beyond "Christ died for our sins" - they had remained stuck at the outlook of a new babe in Christ, thus; their focus - that of the lost - on pettiness from and towards one another.

As a result...

1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

All that speaks of a spirit - of an outlook or an attitude, or a perspective...

But try the spirits of what sort they are is in that sense.

It is referring to the individual asserting that Jesus was not the Christ.

It is referring to the perspective said individual is basing his false assertion on, or looking at things from.

To try them is to ask "is what they are asserting in line with God's outlook as revealed in His Word; or is it based on where the world looks at things from, and bases its assertions on?

Note...

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Just as...just as obvious is the fact that confessing and or denying that Jesus was the Christ is not the only issue the Believer is bound to find the only issue people are either on point on, or off-base about.

This post itself was meant to address another one - that the intended sense of any word is not a "one size fits all" - if ever at all...

 

[I.S.I.T.]

There are 2 main spirits and seeds at work in the world, the first is flesh, and is of the god (Prince) of this world, the Devil. The other is Spirit from God in heaven and is of His Holy Spirit.

The simplicity of these 2 spirits is shown here...

1 John 4:4 “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

 

[Danoh]

There are 2 main spirits and seeds at work in the world, the first is flesh, and is of the god (Prince) of this world, the Devil. The other is Spirit from God in heaven and is of His Holy Spirit.

The simplicity of these 2 spirits is shown here...

1 John 4:4 “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

This side of that which is perfect, there was a change in how either of those two now work.

 

[I.S.I.T.]

This side of that which is perfect, there was a change in how either of those two now work.

Not that I see, you are either born again of God's Spirit, or you are not.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Galatians 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

 

[Danoh]

Not that I see, you are either born again of God's Spirit, or you are not.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Galatians 4:29
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Try asserting that based on passages in place this side of that which is perfect...

You are going by a former "tax" code...

 

[jamie]

Not that I see, you are either born again of God's Spirit, or you are not.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Those born of the flesh bleed, those born of the Spirit don't.

 

[I.S.I.T.]

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Genesis 6:3
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Romans 8:7
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Ephesians 2:16
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.