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To anyone who wants to go against what I say, think about this, I have scripture that says Jesus came from heaven; Jesus is God; There is only one God. The Father is Spirit. Jesus is Spirit. They are the same one and only divine Spirit.

It is simple. God the one and only God and divine Spirit came as a Man named Jesus Christ.
 
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Lazy afternoon said:
Jesus said He was the Son of God.

He also said His Father was greater than Himself.

He also said there is only one good and that it was not Him.

He also said His Father is the only true God.

Scripture continually states Jesus is a man, the first born of many brethren.

LA
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Jesus was not saying he was not God. You say something like that and you don't believe you say anything wrong?

When Jesus was saying only God is good, he was confirming that he was God.
 
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popsthebuilder

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God's Truth said:
Pops,

LA believes that Jesus a mere Man, not God, became God.

LA denies that Jesus came from heaven.

Jesus did come from heaven and was already God in heaven who came as a Man in the flesh.
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Surely LA understands that the spirit of the man Jesus was from heaven.

Just as surely as you understand that from heaven is too from GOD.
 
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keypurr said:
WRONG, go back and study the dictionary.
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Zech 14:1-4 (AKJV/PCE)​
(14:1) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. (14:2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (14:3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (14:4) ¶ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. ​

Compare with Acts 1 until you understand.
 
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marhig said:
Ok, I see Christ to be a part of the Holy Spirit.
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Christ is NOT part of the Holy Spirit, as if the Holy Spirit were a mixture of other Holy Spirits.
marhig said:
In other words he is made manifest to us through the Holy Spirit, but I don't believe he is the father or that only he is the the only Holy Spirit.
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The Bible says plainly that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Spirit.

marhig said:
But rather there is the father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, they are one in love and nature, and we are at one with them once we are truly born of God and living by his will.
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No, there are not three different Spirits united as one Spirit.
There is ONE SPIRIT.

marhig said:
But I don't believe that Jesus the man or his Spirit which is Christ is God, but is of God. He comes from God. And speaks only what the father gives him to speak thus the word of God was made flesh through Jesus Christ, and the word that he speaks is God and is given to him from the father, as Jesus himself says his words are not his, but his father's who sent him. And Jesus didn't live by his will, and he denied the flesh, he denied satan and this world right up until his last breath and he overcame him completely and only lived by the will of the father and by the commandments given to him from the father, and spoke only what was given him to speak. So he isn't the father, and according to Jesus, the Father is his God and father also.

If Jesus grew Stronger in the Spirit as a child then how can he be the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit was always with him, that's what I believe anyway. And he can't be the father as he lived by his father's will and obeyed the commandments of the Father. That's how I see it written in the bible.

Anyway thanks for taking that time to explain what you mean.
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God the Father is Spirit, the one and only divine Spirit and God. The Holy Spirit is Him. He came as a Man and humbled Himself to be a Man and so lesser. That does not make Him any less God. Jesus could have at anytime stopped being lesser.
 
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popsthebuilder said:
Surely LA understands that the spirit of the man Jesus was from heaven.

Just as surely as you understand that from heaven is too from GOD.
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I have debated LA for many years and LA says Jesus did NOT come from heaven and did not come as God, but became God at the ascension.

You are misunderstanding some things that people are saying.
 
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popsthebuilder

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I have debated LA for many years and LA says Jesus did NOT come from heaven and did not come as God, but became God at the ascension.

You are misunderstanding some things that people are saying.
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If they say that the Spirit of Jesus; the Christ of GOD, didn't come from heaven then that is unfortunate. I would prefer to hear them say such though..... Really.....
 
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Right Divider said:
Zech 14:1-4 (AKJV/PCE)​
(14:1) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. (14:2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (14:3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (14:4) ¶ And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. ​

Compare with Acts 1 until you understand.
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Yep... YHVH has feet!

Eze 43:7* And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places
 
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popsthebuilder said:
If they say that the Spirit of Jesus; the Christ of GOD, didn't come from heaven then that is unfortunate. I would prefer to hear them say such though..... Really.....
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Then you shouldn't have tried to correct me until you heard it from them; and, even then, it would be debatable if they claim I got their beliefs wrong. I have debated many people who claim I got it wrong. Their mere claims does not make truth.
 
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steko said:
Yep... YHVH has feet!

Eze 43:7* And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places
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Yeah that physical body is Jesus'.

Jesus is God the Father with a physical body.
 
marhig

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God's Truth said:
Christ is NOT part of the Holy Spirit, as if the Holy Spirit were a mixture of other Holy Spirits.


The Bible says plainly that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Spirit.


No, there are not three different Spirits united as one Spirit.
There is ONE SPIRIT.



God the Father is Spirit, the one and only divine Spirit and God. The Holy Spirit is Him. He came as a Man and humbled Himself to be a Man and so lesser. That does not make Him any less God. Jesus could have at anytime stopped being lesser.
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Can I ask you something GT. If only Christ Jesus is the Holy Spirit, how was he in Simeon at the same time as he was in Jesus when Jesus was in flesh when he was a baby? And why would it say in the bible that Jesus grew in strength in Spirit as a child if he is the Spirit?

Luke 2

And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him

And later in the chapter

And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law
 
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marhig said:
So how does this work then

1 Corinthians 6

But anyone joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
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We are joined with God---that does not make us God.

No matter that we are joined with God, we we not eve be God.

Only God can join us together with Him.
 
marhig

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There is only one divine Spirit. Jesus is God the Father who is Spirit.
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Not according to Jesus, according to Jesus, he is not the father.

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.
 
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