ok doser
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THE UK does not have a socialist government and the current administration is on the right of the political spectrum.
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This is typically what leftists believe is a good representation of the political spectrum:
This is a wrong view.
This is typically what conservatives view as a good representation of the political spectrum:
This is also wrong.
This is what the political spectrum actually looks like:
This is the correct view, because it is based on how authority naturally flows downhill.
A full explanation of these charts can be found here:
The correct perspective reveals that most governments today, including the US and the UK, are VERY LEFTIST.
(There are very few exceptions to this, and the only one I can think of off the top of my head is the island nation of Tonga)
You can go ahead and redefine things as much as you want. Just like Humpty Dumpty:
'And only one for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't — till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'
eider
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Ah.......... and which country in the World supports your viewpoint on this, eh?This is typically what leftists believe is a good representation of the political spectrum:
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This is a wrong view.
This is typically what conservatives view as a good representation of the political spectrum:
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This is also wrong.
This is what the political spectrum actually looks like:
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This is the correct view, because it is based on how authority naturally flows downhill.
A full explanation of these charts can be found here:
The correct perspective reveals that most governments today, including the US and the UK, are VERY LEFTIST.
(There are very few exceptions to this, and the only one I can think of off the top of my head is the island nation of Tonga)
The US, like the UK, is a democracy, and just now you have a left of centre government while we have a right of center government.
Your ideas are those of a minority, both here and in the US.
Thanks for not addressing what I said.
Why is the support of any country in the world necessary, in this case?
Someone didn't bother to read what I said.
According to which chart, above? Last I checked, the UK was still a democracy, which you just acknowledged. According to the true political spectrum, that puts it on the left.
So what?
eider
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Because it shows how lonely your frame of mind is.
Absolutely, we are, and the vast majority of our folks understand right wing politics from left.
So it means that the UK has a right of centre government at this time, while the US has a left of centre government.
Boris would certainly prefer a Republican US government and I have repeatedly pointed this out on TOL.
You live there so I will take your word for it. Republican, eh? That makes him atrocious...
The GOP is no longer a party but rather a cult ...
I don't care if every nation on this world rejects truth. I'll stick with truth. It lasts forever and no nation on this earth has done so. The have all fallen into dust.
Yeah, if someone doesn't like political correctness, which comes to us directly from communist China, they are to lose their jobs, be called enemies of the state, insurrectionists, and have people calling for them to be put in "reeducation camps" by the "tolerant" left. At the very least they are to be called crazy conspiracy theorists.
If the US is a democracy then it's Constitution, it's highest form of law, has been done away with. The US was created to be a republic, meaning a republican form of government. All democracies throughout history have committed suicide. Read a little history for a change.
Again, so what?
Truth isn't a matter of popularity.
Thank you for conceding that the UK government is on the left.
Unlikely, considering that what you consider "right wing" is very leftist, according to the true political spectrum.
Except that both the UK AND the US governments are on the left, according to the true political spectrum.
The Republican party is no longer on the right, if it ever was on the right.
They are on the left, according to the true political spectrum.
eider
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There is a strong right-wing core within our Conservative Party that has shown itself repeatedly over the decades. It influences so much while in and out of power.
One example of this is a television program which features families who survive on State Benefits.... the producers pick subjects who might be socially dysfunctional, or benefits cheats, or working and claiming etc.... and especially those who smoke cigarettes or have other expensive habits.
I would absolutely love to see a similar program titled 'Fat and Greedy in Britain', featuring well-to-do folks who so reduce their apparent income with dodgy expenses claims etc that they can show tiny incomes and then claim maximum benefits! I knew a local farming family who did this to perfection, claiming all benefits and even visiting Food-Banks for the poor........ in their expensive ATVs. They often boasted about how much their farm land was escalating in value, with sentences like 'My Farm earns more each week than our whole combined monthly income! Ha ha!'
eider
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What, a Republic like France? France is a democracy as well.
Rant as much as you like........ The people elect their leaders.
If you want to lead, become a leader...... just now you're just a ranter.
eider
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In a Democracy it is.......
Not so.......Our Government is Right of Centre.
...in your opinion.
Not in the opinions of the majority of folks.
..... according to your political spectrum.
All you have to do is to convince enough voters to gain a foothold in a State.... or more.
False.
Truth is not determined by popularity.
A democracy may assert (despite the position of the minority) that something is right or true, but that doesn't inherently make it right or true.
"Centre" from your eyes.
From the perspective of the Bible: Far left.
My opinion has nothing to do with this.
Which makes no difference whatsoever, because truth is not determined by popularity.
No.
The true political spectrum is based on the flow of authority, with the right being authority that naturally flows downhill only, and the left which has left flowing uphill unnaturally.
I don't have to do anything of the sort, because truth is not determined by popularity.
eider
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But a democracy's political opinion is what elects it's leaders.
And where mistakes are made then these can be realised and reversed.
I do not believe that.
The laws of Moses produced an amazing social community.
That can be shown.
But how the people see the truth guides their votes.
As I said earlier, mistakes can cause redirection.
Well, that idea would put both our systems in the shade, but I think that you would agree about that already.
But your ideas above right flowing downhill seem odd to me, Only Up flows down .....
I cannot see how else you could gain the system that you believe in.
It would require support from the people.
eider
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Rubbish.
Common sense and security awareness is the best security.
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Talk about rubbish!
ok doser
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How'd that work out for Sarah Everard?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Turns out many American women who aren't brainwashed by your socialist garbage are buying guns at record rates, especially concealable handguns. They know that the safest place for a otherwise weaker person is in a state or a city that has concealed carry laws because the bad guys know that they're apt to end up on the wrong end of this:
Imagine how Sarah Everard's walk home might have turned out differently if your nanny state had allowed her to defend herself.
ok doser
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He's a reliable source of rubbish, to be sure. Almost always on the wrong side of an argument.
Which has nothing to do with right or wrong.
Sorry, but most organizations, once they have become corrupt, rarely come back from being so. Even less often if governed by majority rule, because the majority is wicked.
Too bad. It's the truth.
So what?
When did God ever give permission to vote on His laws?
And intentional misdirection causes nations to crumble.
Such is the case with people like you.
Authority flows downhill naturally.
From God, to government, to man, to wife, to child, and even the kid can kick the cat off the couch.
It's not possible except through an outside authority.