That's cute.Cute lying is still lying.
If you really need me to show you again Jesus preaching the 'DBR' to His disciples, before the 'DBR', I will.Please show the scripture where Jesus preached the gospel of the grace of God during His time on earth.
Then by your own admission, the gospel of the kingdom is different from the gospel of the grace of God.'DBR' = the Gospel of the grace of God. 1st Corinthians 15:3
OK ...Then by your own admission, the gospel of the kingdom is different from the gospel of the grace of God.
The gospel of the kingdom can and was preached WITHOUT the DBR.
The gospel of the grace of God CANNOT be preached WITHOUT the DBR.
He taught them the 'DBR'.... The twelve continued to preach what Christ taught them on earth during His ministry to the circumcision. ...
Jesus was speaking for our sake. The apostles had no understanding of what Jesus said. It was hid from them.That's cute.
If you really need me to show you again Jesus preaching the 'DBR' to His disciples, before the 'DBR', I will.
'DBR' = the Gospel of the grace of God. 1st Corinthians 15:3
Yes it is.It's no red herring.
No one would have recognized the promised Savior without the fruit He demonstrated, no matter what word title He claimed.How can grace be preached without using the word grace?
Jesus, the 12, and Paul taught mercy and grace above law.
You're playing fast and loose with the scripture there. What's up with that? Trying to mix oil and water again?Paul says he preached the gospel he once tried to destroy, which was that Jesus is the promised anointed one that would bring the whole world together.
Exactly.And the spotless sacrifice is offered by a priest of the order of Melchizedek, not of the order of Aaron.
Right.And who is the father of many nations, Genesis 17:4&5
This has shocked me more than anything they've said so far, that Jesus taught a gospel absent of grace.Galatians 3:17
The only ones who do are MAD.
Yep, the mysteries. They can't get away from the mysteries.Please document PAUL saying that (hint: he did not write that in any of his epistles).
Paul wrote about a NEW creature... the 12 did not.
Christ never taught the 12 about the body of Christ. That is Paul only.
When Christ sent the 12 to preach the gospel of the kingdom to Israel, they did NOT know about the DBR.
How can what they preached (i.e., the gospel of the kingdom) be the gospel of the grace of God that cannot be preached without the DBR?
Some things the same and some things different.
What are you talking about, can you provide examples?... It's just such a shame that the churches today are primarily focused on a gospel that isn't even for them.
Oh come on Glory I didn't "blenderize" anything.LOL You blenderizers crack me up.
I can definitely show you Jesus teaching His disciples the 'DBR' before it happened.They can't show it because the blood had not yet been shed.
Again, I think you're saying this just because the (scriptural) evidence appears to conflict with MAD, and you can't accept it.Lots and lots of vain babbling going on, though, isn't there?
He didn't claim any title. The miracles were His "fruit".No one would have recognized the promised Savior without the fruit He demonstrated, no matter what word title He claimed.
Knew what?They knew it because of the fruit demonstrated, not because of a word used.
The same way Jesus taught and demonstrated He was Savior without Him using the word savior for Himself.
Yeah, you're unable to see the difference between what Jesus taught when He walked among us and what the ascended LORD revealed to Paul, so your analogy is self fulfilling.The same way you can teach and demonstrate geometry to your child without using the word geometry.
The same way you can see the Lord Jesus Christ in OT scriptures without the OT using the words "the Lord Jesus Christ".
It's not always about precise word use, it's about the message. Akin to the old proverbial statement "You're unable to see the forest because of the trees".
Luke 18:31-34 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.I can definitely show you Jesus teaching His disciples the 'DBR' before it happened.
The teachings and deeds of Jesus either revealed grace or it didn't.Not absent of grace.
You can't undergird grace.Undergirded by it. But the focus was that keeping the law was still required.
Fraud. No one is saying the law saves anyone.The teachings and deeds of Jesus either revealed grace or it didn't.
It did and you guys can't stand it.
The very fact that Jesus (God) became flesh to dwell among mankind, and died to atone for sin for mankind, and resurrected to defeat death for mankind has grace written all over it.
Cause not a single person ever deserved it, and that's what grace is ---- unmerited favor.
You can't undergird grace.
And the letter of the law never saved anyone.
I am leaving this thread, as I can't stand to watch another post saying that God taught that law saved instead of grace.
That sends shivers up my spine.
God taught His grace is what saves from cover to cover of the Bible, and Jesus would never go against that at any time ever.