ECT Tongues

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I know that. Tongues is one of the nine gifts. But even people who don't have that gift. The Holy Spirit will still use the groanings for.

You do not recognize the experience of--

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

one day you might.

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Maybe but you should consider who the Holy Spirit was speaking to, before throwing it at me.

LA

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I do. Everything the Holy Spirit gives me is for me first. And then He tells me who to share it with. After I have been tested on it, I am free to share it.

Luke 6:41-43
41 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the plank in your own eye?
42 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye.
43 "For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.
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You do not recognize the experience of--

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

one day you might.

LA

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Many Many times.
 

heir

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were for a sign

1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


Paul wrote that they would cease

1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

when that which is perfect is come


1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

and we have it

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
 

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were for a sign

1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


Paul wrote that they would cease

1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

when that which is perfect is come


1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

and we have it

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

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andyc

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So why are tongues a sign to unbelievers?

This will be funny watching you trying to figure it out LOL
 

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So why are tongues a sign to unbelievers?

This will be funny watching you trying to figure it out LOL

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One can be an unbeliever in different ways. In this case the church comes together. So we know they believe in God. The only thing they cant believe is that they have received the Holy Spirit. There are nine gifts of the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit decides which gifts He gives. And they are looking for evidence of receiving the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit gives them the gift of tongues.
 

oatmeal

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Stage don't matter when God does the inspiring

Milk comes first as should speaking in tongues.

The first thing the apostles did on the day of Pentecost after the cloven tongues like as of fire was speak in tongues.

No one outgrows the benefits of speaking in tongues.

It is always a good thing.

It will not be necessary after we see Jesus face to face, I John 3:2, because then we shall be like him.
 

oatmeal

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were for a sign

1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.


Paul wrote that they would cease

1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

when that which is perfect is come


1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

and we have it

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

When we see Jesus face to face then we shall be like him . He is the one who is the perfect one to come. I John 3:2
 

Lazy afternoon

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She doesn't know because knowledge has vanished when that which is perfect came.

What's the matter child, no "all scripture" to throughly furnish you (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV)? I guess you'll never grow up (Ephesians 4:14-16 KJV).

heirs answer is in keeping with her warped doctrines.

Totton told the truth.

If tongues have ceased then so too have the partiality of prophecy and knowledge ceased.

When that which is perfect has come then Christ has come in return from Heaven bodily, OR Christ is fully perfected in His Bride the true church which is His body.

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

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Milk comes first as should speaking in tongues.

The first thing the apostles did on the day of Pentecost after the cloven tongues like as of fire was speak in tongues.

No one outgrows the benefits of speaking in tongues.

It is always a good thing.

It will not be necessary after we see Jesus face to face, I John 3:2, because then we shall be like him.

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You right. What people are missing is the gifts come in the milk understanding. But when the Holy Spirit starts quoting verses and they go into the meat understanding tongues will cease.
Now when they get to the revelations of Jesus Christ all nine gifts are in each revelation.
 

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You right. What people are missing is the gifts come in the milk understanding. But when the Holy Spirit starts quoting verses and they go into the meat understanding tongues will cease.
Now when they get to the revelations of Jesus Christ all nine gifts are in each revelation.

1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
 

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1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

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EDIFY (SHARE MORE VERSES-BUILD EACH OTHER UP WITH VERSES)
Rom 12:10-11
10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another;
11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord;
Heb 6:11-12
11 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end,
12 that you do not become sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
2 Tim 2:14-15
14 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Pet 1:10
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble;
James 3:1-2
1 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
2 For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.
1 Cor 11:31-32
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.
1 Pet 2:13-17
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
1 Pet 2:18-19
18 Servants, be submissive to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the harsh.
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
Rom 14:19
19 Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another.
1Thes 5:11-14
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
12 And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you,
13 and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all.
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xxxEdify means to build them up with more of the armor and more verses(power) to fight against the wiles of the devil. Edify does not mean make them feel good about themselves. But to give them more verses more strength(faith). Faith is spiritual strength, and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

1Thes 5:11-13
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
12 And we urge you, brethren, to recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you,
13 and to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. Be at peace among yourselves.
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Eph 6:11-17
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
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xxxInside all of us we have two sides. Good or bad. Righteous or evil. Spiritual or carnal. Godly or satanic. Affections or emotions. Now with every word that comes out of your mouth you are edifying one side or the other. And with every word that you hear you are going to feed one side or the other.Your going to feed the inner man or the outer person. Every reply on these boards can be discerned with these theories. But you must discern your self. Are you supporting God or self.

Jude 1:20-21
20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
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Rom 10:17
17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
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Milk comes first as should speaking in tongues.

The first thing the apostles did on the day of Pentecost after the cloven tongues like as of fire was speak in tongues.

No one outgrows the benefits of speaking in tongues.

It is always a good thing.

It will not be necessary after we see Jesus face to face, I John 3:2, because then we shall be like him.

Regeneration precedes milk
 

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What's the matter child, no "all scripture" to throughly furnish you (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV)? I guess you'll never grow up (Ephesians 4:14-16 KJV).

This is because you have allowed yourself to be spoonfed doctrines instead of studying the bible for yourself...you have to think about what Paul is saying.

Paul's scripture is perfect, that is what we are to go by. He said the gifts of the Holy Spirit are given to every man for the edifying of the whole assembly.

He said we are to earnestly desire the higher gifts but especially that we might prophesy.

YOU stupidly say we are not to earnestly desire the gifts...I prefer the perfect revelation.
 
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