Trump Was Wrong--They're Not Sending Their Rapists

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Regarding this fake news claim:


Here are the actual facts:

"Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years. Our findings help us understand why the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future...undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."

Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

And then there's this, from the Cato Institute:

"The general pattern of native‐born Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by illegal immigrants and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes."

Link: https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

Do some illegal immigrants commit rape and other crimes? Yes, but they are less likely to do so than native-born citizens. Therefore, it is a lie, it is a prejudice, and it is a fraud to say that they do. Most immigrants come here only because they are desperate to escape such things as poverty, crime, and gang violence in their native lands. Most of them are only here to make a living for themselves, not to cause trouble. Anyone who says otherwise is a deceiver.
 

Arthur Brain

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Regarding this fake news claim:


Here are the actual facts:

"Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years. Our findings help us understand why the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future...undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."

Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

And then there's this, from the Cato Institute:

"The general pattern of native‐born Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by illegal immigrants and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes."

Link: https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

Do some illegal immigrants commit rape and other crimes? Yes, but they are less likely to do so than native-born citizens. Therefore, it is a lie, it is a prejudice, and it is a fraud to say that they do. Most immigrants come here only because they are desperate to escape such things as poverty, crime, and gang violence in their native lands. Most of them are only here to make a living for themselves, not to cause trouble. Anyone who says otherwise is a deceiver.
Well, those who say otherwise are hardly over furnished in the brain department as evidenced with MAGA! and whatnot.
 

Hoping

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Regarding this fake news claim:


Here are the actual facts:

"Contrary to public perception, we observe considerably lower felony arrest rates among undocumented immigrants compared to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens and find no evidence that undocumented criminality has increased in recent years. Our findings help us understand why the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future...undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."

Source: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

And then there's this, from the Cato Institute:

"The general pattern of native‐born Americans having the highest criminal conviction rates followed by illegal immigrants and then with legal immigrants having the lowest holds for all of other specific types of crimes such as violent crimes, property crimes, homicide, and sex crimes."

Link: https://www.cato.org/blog/new-research-illegal-immigration-crime-0

Do some illegal immigrants commit rape and other crimes? Yes, but they are less likely to do so than native-born citizens. Therefore, it is a lie, it is a prejudice, and it is a fraud to say that they do. Most immigrants come here only because they are desperate to escape such things as poverty, crime, and gang violence in their native lands. Most of them are only here to make a living for themselves, not to cause trouble. Anyone who says otherwise is a deceiver.
Do their numbers include all the ones who weren't registered upon entry to the US?
You know, the ones who flee from border patrol instead of to the border patrol?
The ones already sent back for their crimes while here, and expelled?
 

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That isn't possible until all the "runners" are caught again.
Your "yes" is wishful thinking.
The fact remains that you don't have to be an illegal immigrant to commit crimes. Natural-born citizens do it often enough. When we look at the stats, we find that crimes are more likely to be committed by citizens than by immigrants (whether they be legal immigrants or illegal). The reason for this is obvious: Natrual-born citizens are here by accident of birth, but immigrants are here by conscious choice. Few if any of them want to go back to where they came from. Most are here to improve their lives, not to destroy them.
 

Hoping

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The fact remains that you don't have to be an illegal immigrant to commit crimes. Natural-born citizens do it often enough. When we look at the stats, we find that crimes are more likely to be committed by citizens than by immigrants (whether they be legal immigrants or illegal). The reason for this is obvious: Natrual-born citizens are here by accident of birth, but immigrants are here by conscious choice. Few if any of them want to go back to where they came from. Most are here to improve their lives, not to destroy them.
Derail...
 

annabenedetti

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Do some illegal immigrants commit rape and other crimes? Yes, but they are less likely to do so than native-born citizens. Therefore, it is a lie, it is a prejudice, and it is a fraud to say that they do. Most immigrants come here only because they are desperate to escape such things as poverty, crime, and gang violence in their native lands. Most of them are only here to make a living for themselves, not to cause trouble. Anyone who says otherwise is a deceiver.

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