elohiym
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EVERYTHING is predestined by God.Turbo said:Do you not believe that EVERYTHING is predestined by God?
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. (cf Jeremiah 1:5; Isaiah 46:10; 2 Timothy 2:19,20)
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. (cf Jeremiah 1:5; Isaiah 46:10; 2 Timothy 2:19,20)
EVERYTHING God predestines brings God glory.Turbo said:Do you not believe that EVERYTHING that God predestines brings God glory?
Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
That means even the torture and murder of an innocent man can work together for good.As much as the torture and murder of an innocent young man for your sins. Do you think that God prefers little girls more than his only begotten son?Turbo said:Do you not believe that even the rape and murder of a little girl is in some way for God's glory?
Yes. God predestines everything, but that doesn't mean God does that wickedness, only that he creates the wicked person and has foreknowledge of that wickedness yet does not stop it, even though he can, because it is for his glory. He can make peace or create evil (calamity); that's his choice, and it is for his glory.Turbo said:You were quoting it [Isaiah 45:7] to support your claim that God predestines EVERYTHING, including the rape of children, and you know it.
God had 250 men consumned by fire for offering incense. Do you think he couldn't do the same to every child rapist right now? Why do you think he allows them to rape children, Turbo? :think: