What Would Actually Prove That Someone Is Saved?

Clete

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This question came up this morning and so I thought I'd post my thoughts here.

It seems to me that most of the confusion surrounding such a question comes from looking in the wrong place for the answer.

If someone asked me to prove that I am saved, I would not point to my behavior, my church attendance, my emotions, or any ritual I have participated in. I would point to one thing only, and I would say it plainly:

I believe the gospel.

Paul defines that gospel clearly:

I Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,​

That is the content. That is the object of faith. That is the dividing line.

The issue is not whether a man has been baptized, whether he speaks in tongues, whether he keeps the law, or whether he has cleaned up his life. The issue is whether he is trusting the finished work of Christ alone.

Paul removes all ambiguity on this point:

Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness​

If I have to point to my works to prove I am saved, then I am no longer standing on grace. I am attempting to validate myself, and that is precisely what Paul excludes.

Now here is where the discussion often gets shallow, because people reduce the gospel to a set of abstract facts, as though merely agreeing that certain events happened in history is sufficient. The gospel is not less than that, but it is certainly more.

The one who died for our sins was not merely a man. God Himself took on flesh. The eternal Son entered into His own creation, lived as a man, and went to the cross. The one we call Jesus is not simply a messenger of salvation, He is the very ground of it. His death is sufficient because of who He is. His resurrection is decisive because death had no rightful claim on Him.

To believe the gospel, then, is to entrust yourself to Him. Not to your performance, not to your reform, not to your religious activity, but to the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

That is the proof.

Everything else follows from that, but nothing can replace it.

There will, of course, be a change in thinking and in life. Paul speaks often about walking worthy, about putting off the old man, about bearing fruit. Those things are real, and they matter. However, they are the result of salvation, not the evidence by which it is established.

A man can clean up his life and still be lost. A man can be baptized and still be lost. A man can be deeply religious and still be lost.

The question is not, “What have you done?”

The question is, “What are you trusting?”

If the answer is anything other than Christ alone, then no amount of external evidence will prove salvation. If the answer is Christ alone, then that is sufficient, because God Himself has said so:
Romans 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ​
That is where assurance rests. Not in the shifting ground of human performance, but in the finished work of the One who loved us and gave Himself for us.
 

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You know if they are saved by what they confess. In a way you can come to a conclusion based on their behavior. But it is probably the opposite of the religion of Christianity. For example, if idolater goes into a confessional and believes that "priest" can absolve him of his sin, then he is outside the faith. His actions show is disbelieve in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.
 

Clete

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You know if they are saved by what they confess. In a way you can come to a conclusion based on their behavior. But it is probably the opposite of the religion of Christianity. For example, if idolater goes into a confessional and believes that "priest" can absolve him of his sin, then he is outside the faith. His actions show is disbelieve in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.
Perhaps, but human beings are very capable of holding multiple contradictory beliefs in their head. If he believes the gospel, as has been laid out in previous threads (I can do so again here if need be), then regardless of how confused the rest of his doctrine is, he will be saved, even if by the skin of his teeth.
 

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Perhaps, but human beings are very capable of holding multiple contradictory beliefs in their head. If he believes the gospel, as has been laid out in previous threads (I can do so again here if need be), then regardless of how confused the rest of his doctrine is, he will be saved, even if by the skin of his teeth.
I always immediately think of this verse for that context:

1Cor 3:15 (AKJV/PCE)​
(3:15) If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 

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I always immediately think of this verse for that context:

1Cor 3:15 (AKJV/PCE)​
(3:15) If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
My comments in post 3 are a bit of hyperbole, by the way. It isn't actually REGARDLESS of how confused the rest of one's doctrine gets. If your doctrine is such that you talk people into killing themselves and their children (e.g. Jim Jones) then that's probably a few bridges too far.

My point is only that I'm not ready to toss the entire Catholic church into the fire based on their legalism. The same logic could be applied to practically every sect in the whole of Christian history. Not that I condone the Catholic's goofy practices that are entirely unbiblical and irrational. Quite the contrary. I simply don't believe it overcomes the saving power of the gospel for those Catholics who do happen to believe it, however many (or few) that might be.
 

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My comments in post 3 are a bit of hyperbole, by the way. It isn't actually REGARDLESS of how confused the rest of one's doctrine gets. If your doctrine is such that you talk people into killing themselves and their children (e.g. Jim Jones) then that's probably a few bridges too far.
How so? Were their sins not completely forgiven?

Do you think that Jim Jones was saved in the first place?
My point is only that I'm not ready to toss the entire Catholic church into the fire based on their legalism. The same logic could be applied to practically every sect in the whole of Christian history. Not that I condone the Catholic's goofy practices that are entirely unbiblical and irrational. Quite the contrary. I simply don't believe it overcomes the saving power of the gospel for those Catholics who do happen to believe it, however many (or few) that might be.
I agree that some Romanists might be saved despite the RCC's terrible doctrine. But if they fully believe RCC doctrine, it's just unlikely that they will be saved (as they are constantly taught that they must "perform" to get saved).
 
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