No one cares. Make an argument!
why did John water baptize Jesus ?
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No one cares. Make an argument!
If no one cares, why argue?
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That's OK, you've been wrong before.
That's OK, you've been wrong before.
But it was only preached to and by the Jews. Water baptism was not something new at the time of John the baptizer. Israel had water baptism for a very long time.
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JR is not talking about arguing in the way that you're thinking of it.
Making an argument means making a CASE and not simply giving your opinion.
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Mal 3:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(3:1) Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. (3:2) But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he [is] like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: (3:3) And he shall sit [as] a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
This is the baptism of fire that John the B was talking about.
Mal 3:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(3:1) Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. (3:2) But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he [is] like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: (3:3) And he shall sit [as] a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
This is the baptism of fire that John the B was talking about.
Crispus, Gaius, the household of Stephanus, the twelve at Ephesus, and I, would not agree.
Where?
If "no one cares", an argument can't be made.
John said exactly what the baptism of fire was in the verse following his announcement of it.
It is written..."Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (Matt 3:12)
If it is the "baptism of fire" that Malachi cites, it must have already happened while Jesus was here.
As it is now Jesus' blood that purifies men of sin in the NT, The only person who would fit the Mal. 3:2 "his coming", is John himself.
That would allow them to offer 3:3's "an offering in righteousness."
No offerings will be made in heaven, after the end of the world, do you think?
Quit obfuscating.
You said:
I said, in response:
No one cares THAT YOU DISAGREE. Your disagreement doesn't mean anything to anyone, nor does it make you right or us wrong. Your personal opinions carry no weight whatsoever. THUS: MAKE AN ARGUMENT! Or else find a different hobby.
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Yes, that fire was to purge ISRAEL per the scripture that I showed you (among others).
Wrong, as usual.
Clueless, you are.
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The point was that no one cares about your opinion.
You need to make a CASE with some legitimate arguments.
My point had already been made, in post #18.
Thankyou for participating in the discussion.
I now know your POV, even though I can't agree with it.
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Enjoy your ignorance.