Yet another reason people don't trust libertarians

musterion

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aCultureWarrior

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Ron Paul and his band of Libertarian lunatics have once again shown why they should be in straightjackets instead of holding political office.
 

Daniel1611

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I like Ron Paul, but he's a right wing libertarian that doesn't have a problem with centralized power as long as it's business that wields that power. I oppose centralized power in general. I oppose government and private business having the authority to dominate society.
 

aCultureWarrior

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I like Ron Paul,

Of course you do.

but he's a right wing libertarian that doesn't have a problem with centralized power as long as it's business that wields that power. I oppose centralized power in general. I oppose government and private business having the authority to dominate society.

So pro abortion (left up to the respective States), pro homosexuality, pro pornography (kiddy porn included) and pro legalization of all recreational drugs makes Ron Paul a "right wing Libertarian"? (If Daddy Paul is right wing Libertarian, I'd hate to see a left wing one).
 

Daniel1611

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Of course you do.



So pro abortion (left up to the respective States), pro homosexuality, pro pornography (kiddy porn included) and pro legalization of all recreational drugs makes Ron Paul a "right wing Libertarian"? (If Daddy Paul is right wing Libertarian, I'd hate to see a left wing one).

Right and Left Libertarian tends to be more descriptive of attitude towards checks on corporate power, not social issues as left and right libertarians are typically in agreement with most social issues.
 

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So pro abortion (left up to the respective States), pro homosexuality, pro pornography (kiddy porn included) and pro legalization of all recreational drugs makes Ron Paul a "right wing Libertarian"? (If Daddy Paul is right wing Libertarian, I'd hate to see a left wing one).

Right and Left Libertarian tends to be more descriptive of attitude towards checks on corporate power, not social issues as left and right libertarians are typically in agreement with most social issues.

Give us an example of how Ron Paul would be pro corporate as opposed to another Libertarian who isn't.

And yes, "self ownership" ("It's MY body and I can do with it as I damn well please!") is the nucleus of Libertarian social issues.
 

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

So pro abortion (left up to the respective States),...

Oh here we go again...:sigh:

Yep, why shouldn't Germany, France, Israel, UK (name a state) determine their own destiny?

I'm not sure what Eurpean countries have to do with Ron Paul believing that murdering unborn babies should be left up to the respective US States.

Perhaps you should call Libertarian Christian Liberty WizardofOz for backup on this one Doc.
 

Daniel1611

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Give us an example of how Ron Paul would be pro corporate as opposed to another Libertarian who isn't.

And yes, "self ownership" ("It's MY body and I can do with it as I damn well please!") is the nucleus of Libertarian social issues.

Paul doesn't believe in any meaningful regulations of business. An example of a left libertarian would be someone like Noam Chomsky or Bill Maher I suppose. The first people to use the term "libertarian" were left libertarians.
 

drbrumley

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

So pro abortion (left up to the respective States),...



I'm not sure what Eurpean countries have to do with Ron Paul believing that murdering unborn babies should be left up to the respective US States.

Perhaps you should call Libertarian Christian Liberty WizardofOz for backup on this one Doc.

LOL!!!! Perhaps you need some backup.....Oh you mean US States....so what's the difference Hamilton? And what happened to them that they are under and not over the US Government? Oh you didn't know...you better call somebody...
 

aCultureWarrior

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Give us an example of how Ron Paul would be pro corporate as opposed to another Libertarian who isn't.

And yes, "self ownership" ("It's MY body and I can do with it as I damn well please!") is the nucleus of Libertarian social issues.


Paul doesn't believe in any meaningful regulations of business. An example of a left libertarian would be someone like Noam Chomsky or Bill Maher I suppose. The first people to use the term "libertarian" were left libertarians.

"Meaningful" covers a wide spectrum. I gather that Daddy Paul doesn't want any regulation of private business (those silly zoning laws where you're not allowed to open a night club in a residential neighborhood and health laws where inspectors come into your restaurant and make sure you're not serviing rat instead of chicken, etc.) as opposed to someone like foul mouthed atheist Bill Maher who would want to over-regulate private businesses?
 

aCultureWarrior

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LOL!!!! Perhaps you need some backup.....Oh you mean US States....so what's the difference Hamilton? And what happened to them that they are under and not over the US Government? Oh you didn't know...you better call somebody...

I guess I missed somewhere in our country's founding documents where it said that baby murdering (or any other immoral behavior for that matter) is a "states rights issue".

Perhaps you could pull that document up for us Doc?
 

Daniel1611

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I don't understand your point. I was giving you an example of a right libertarian (Paul) and a left libertarian (Chomsky).
 

Daniel1611

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I guess I missed somewhere in our country's founding documents where it said that baby murdering (or any other immoral behavior for that matter) is a "states rights issue".
Perhaps you could pull that document up for us Doc?

Regular murder of a person who is already born is a state crime, so why wouldn't murdering an unborn baby be a state crime as well?
 

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libertarians are the ONLY ones that can be trusted. the people. you'll never understand, you just show your brainwashed ignorance -
 
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