beloved57
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Christ is the door of the Sheep, the command is to the Sheep everywhere to repent, and they shall do so !
Door of the Sheep!
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If a sinner wishes to enter heaven and be counted among the sheep then he must enter through the gate.
Luke 13:24
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
In the final judgment God will separate between the saved and the lost according to their obedience or disobedience to His word. Those that did His will on earth shall enter into heaven. Those that refused to obey God shall be condemned to hell.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the
The problem (that marke has as well) is that "sheep" isn't talking about Christians. It's talking about believers of the New Covenant Christ made with Israel.
Different set of rules for a different household.
beloved57
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That He [Jesus] is the door of the Sheep is in scripture.
beloved57
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Sheep are Believers and unbelievers, however they will become believers.
Not the point of contention.
They're not sheep until they go through the door.
beloved57
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Thats something you made up !
Believers are not believers until they believe.
beloved57
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We talking about Sheep.
Which you (and marke) think means Christians, no?
beloved57
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You do realize Sheep are Sheep prior to their hearing Christs voice and start following Him ?
Answer the question, do you think that sheep refers to Christians?
If not, then I agree with you, because sheep refers to Israel, as Jesus "was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
If so, then we disagree, because not once does Paul refer to believers in the Body of Christ as sheep. In addition, what I said above would be true ("they're not sheep until they go through the door") at least according to your beliefs.
beloved57
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I already answered it. Didn't I say there are Sheep as believers and unbelievers, but they will believe ? Why is that hard for you to understand
I didn't ask if sheep were believers.
I asked if sheep were Christians.
Please answer the question:
Does the term "sheep" refer to Christians?
beloved57
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You dont make sense again. I told you that Sheep are believers [christians]and unbelievers[non christian], but the non christian sheep shall one day become believers[christians] why cant you understand that. Is it difficult to understand that a believer is a synonym for Christian? Im not dealing with it no more
Not my fault. Try harder to understand.
Thank you for answering my question.
So, in other words, it refers to both Christians AND non-Christians (who are actually just Christians who don't realize it yet)?
"One day"?
Didn't God predestine them from before the foundation of the earth to be believers?
Because you never actually said that.
It is when the Bible doesn't refer to all believers as Christians...
Translation: "I, b57, am taking my ball and going home"
beloved57
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You still dont get it ! Its really simple !