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Speed of light

Stripe

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What do you think of the idea that each LTT problem object we see, as an entity that is information, was simply "sped up" to solve the problem of LTT? In other words, if we call each of those entities a kind of model it's life and light could easily be sped up like a computer simulation. For example, with some computer sim programs if one wants to they can travel through a model of our solar system and one can set their "speed", which can easily be set to faster than light because it's just a model.

Sounds ... clunky.

How would we test such an idea?
 

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Sounds ... clunky.

How would we test such an idea?
Determine the 1 way speed of light and have gravity affects the speed. Determine if the substance of all material existence is information.
 

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Sounds ... clunky.

How would we test such an idea?
You have to identify logically the type of evidence to look for that would, if it exists, be inconsistent with the idea that the starlight we see actually originated with the supposed stars that it supposedly emanates from.

The type of evidence that would be inconsistent with this would be that there is a God, and that He made everything in six days, and, that He did it not too long ago (geologically or astronomically speaking).

So if there's any evidence for that, then that evidence would disprove the idea that the universe is billions of years old.

Christ is risen from the dead.
 

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Determine the 1 way speed of light and have gravity affects the speed. Determine if the substance of all material existence is information.
Bell's Theorem has never been falsified, which means possibly that uncertainty is elemental to the universe, just as much as are photons and electrons and quarks and other particles.

I say 'possibly,' because the other possibility is that the observed uncertainty is actually God pulling the tiniest strings, something that Bell's Theorem could never falsify.

In fact nothing could falsify that idea, unless we knew absolutely that there is no God.

(Science characterizes God as a 'non-local hidden variable,' as far as I'm concerned. Science cannot rule out the existence of non-local hidden variables.)
 
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Derf

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Bell's Theorem has never been falsified, which means possibly that uncertainty is elemental to the universe, just as much as are photons and electrons and quarks and other particles.

I say 'possibly,' because the other possibility is that the observed uncertainty is actually God pulling the tiniest strings, something that Bell's Theorem could never falsify.

In fact nothing could falsify that idea, unless we knew absolutely that there is no God.

(Science characterizes God as a 'non-local hidden variable,' as I'm concerned. Science cannot rule out the existence of non-local hidden variables.)
Are you saying God could have used an improbability drive to get light here quicker? I like the idea!

 

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Are you saying God could have used an improbability drive to get light here quicker? I like the idea!

Do you think that there is any technical, including solutions humans think are impossible. solution that God cannot solve? He's only "just a tad bit" smarter than humans and has only been at this kind of stuff for an eternity longer than finite, self-destructive humanity. As far as I'm concerned we can't even begin to imagine what God can do. He's too far beyond us for us to even begin to comprehend the entirety of His abilities.
 

Derf

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Do you think that there is any technical, including solutions humans think are impossible. solution that God cannot solve? He's only "just a tad bit" smarter than humans and has only been at this kind of stuff for an eternity longer than finite, self-destructive humanity. As far as I'm concerned we can't even begin to imagine what God can do. He's too far beyond us for us to even begin to comprehend the entirety of His abilities.
I think He's far beyond what we can do*, but He tells us what He's like, that He doesn't lie, and that He changes not, and that we can trust Him.

So if He says He made the whole of heaven and earth in 6 days, I believe Him. However, I haven't been able to figure out the details yet.

*God reasonably thinks we can do quite a lot, however:
[Gen 11:6 KJV] 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
 

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I think He's far beyond what we can do*, but He tells us what He's like, that He doesn't lie, and that He changes not, and that we can trust Him.

So if He says He made the whole of heaven and earth in 6 days, I believe Him. However, I haven't been able to figure out the details yet.

*God reasonably thinks we can do quite a lot, however:
[Gen 11:6 KJV] 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
The verse that you quoted gives limits to the "now nothing will be restrained from them".
Gen 11:6 KJV And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
 
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