Answering old threads thread

Skeeter

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I never suggested that pregnancy was impossible but merely that they do not normally occur as a result of rape. The point being that rape has nothing to do with reproduction and if it did, it doesn't work very well at all.
To a very, very large extent intercourse is intercourse. You did not know that.
This may have several causes, not the least of which being that a woman isn't able to conceive except for about about a week or so every month so that alone would tend toward something close to 75% of rapes not causing pregnancy.
A woman can conceive at any point in the cycle, although the probability greatly differs depending on what time of the month.
There are other factors as well, of course, because the real number isn't 25% its only 5%, and the majority of those were rapes perpetrated by family members, by the way.
Just like intercourse in general.
The point here is that I was not suggesting that rape cannot or does not ever result in a pregnancy. A point, by the way, which is obvious enough that anyone who thought I was saying otherwise was looking for a reason to disagree. One wonders what the motive would be there.
Why do you go ahead and capitalize the word NEVER? Emphasis of an absolute expresses more than just a generalization in my book. And, why do you ignore that several congressman have negated the need for an exception for rape in regard to abortion because they believe when someone is actually raped, the body rejects contraception. Your type of loose thinking created their misunderstanding. Yet you double down and crack on with it?
 
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Skeeter

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I am not responsible for what you read into my comments.


Silly ridiculous nonsensical stupidity.


A very very small number that's not even worth mentioning, just as is the number of husbands who rape their wives.

Exceptions typically prove the rule, not the other way around. If you cannot tolerate generalities, don't speak to me. I am not one who feels the need to explain that right turns are allowed every time I tell someone that a red traffic light means stop.

Clete
Ten to 14% of married women are raped by their husbands. Twenty-five percent of women experience rape or attempted rape. This should help put marital rape in context for you.
 

Arthur Brain

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Why are you going on when you said there's no need to go on?
Why are you bothering to 'respond' if you can't answer a straightforward question? Ya know what, don't bother. Anyone who makes excuses for people forcing themselves onto others against their will be it in marriage or else has something deeply wrong with them anyway.
 

Derf

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Why are you bothering to 'respond' if you can't answer a straightforward question? Ya know what, don't bother. Anyone who makes excuses for people forcing themselves onto others against their will be it in marriage or else has something deeply wrong with them anyway.
Just like anyone who makes up his own standards of right and wrong is not trustworthy to judge right vs wrong. So why does it bother you so much when someone does it different than you?
 

glorydaz

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To say the least.

Rape is about violating someone in a way that is more profound than mere physical force. It is a violation that cannot be corrected or made amends for. It tears at not only the victim but at the very fabric of society itself. The death penalty for the convicted rapist is justice.
And if it's the lawful husband being accused of this act of force?
 

glorydaz

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Just like anyone who makes up his own standards of right and wrong is not trustworthy to judge right vs wrong. So why does it bother you so much when someone does it different than you?
Aren't we all entitled to our own opinions? When someone claims they have the right to rape their own wife, those who see the error are obliged to speak up. Hoping to convince someone of their error ...aside from the simple matter of right and wrong.
 

Skeeter

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Just like anyone who makes up his own standards of right and wrong is not trustworthy to judge right vs wrong. So why does it bother you so much when someone does it different than you?
Let's try again. Your standards are no less subjective than anyone else's. Why do you claim otherwise? You do not have a manual with reliable, internally consistent, precise or nuanced handling of relevant dilemmas. Having pretend-certainty concerning absolute morals is actually worse than knowingly grappling with partial understandings.
 
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Derf

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Let's try again. Your standards are no less subjective than anyone else's. Why do you claim otherwise? You do not have a manual with reliable, internally consistent, precise or nuanced handling of relevant dilemmas. Having pretend-certainty concerning absolute morals is actually worse than knowingly grappling with partial understandings.
Sure I do. Whereas from what you've written, there's nothing about yours that can't be changed with a change of "leadership".
 

Derf

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Aren't we all entitled to our own opinions? When someone claims they have the right to rape their own wife, those who see the error are obliged to speak up. Hoping to convince someone of their error ...aside from the simple matter of right and wrong.
If we're entitled to our own opinions, who's actually in error? Right and wrong are only simple if there's 100% agreement in those opinions, which there never is, else there wouldn't be a need for this conversation.

Or if there's a standard we can all turn to that will tell us what's right vs wrong. If we can agree to the standard that isn't merely a man's opinion, then we have some place to start.
 

glorydaz

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If we're entitled to our own opinions, who's actually in error? Right and wrong are only simple if there's 100% agreement in those opinions, which there never is, else there wouldn't be a need for this conversation.

Or if there's a standard we can all turn to that will tell us what's right vs wrong. If we can agree to the standard that isn't merely a man's opinion, then we have some place to start.
The standard is, of course, the Bible. We're here to find truth in scripture.
When someone interprets the Bible with only a partial understanding....they fall short of the truth as it's written.
I'm pretty sure that's why we're all here.
 

Clete

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To a very, very large extent intercourse is intercourse. You did not know that.

A woman can conceive at any point in the cycle, although the probability greatly differs depending on what time of the month.

Just like intercourse in general.

Why do you go ahead and capitalize the word NEVER? Emphasis of an absolute expresses more than just a generalization in my book. And, why do you ignore that several congressman have negated the need for an exception for rape in regard to abortion because they believe when someone is actually raped, the body rejects contraception. Your type of loose thinking created their misunderstanding. Yet you double down and crack on with it?
Why would it be okay to murder someone because their father was a rapist?
 

Clete

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Ten to 14% of married women are raped by their husbands. Twenty-five percent of women experience rape or attempted rape. This should help put marital rape in context for you.
I don't believe a word that you say but even if these numbers are true, which I highly doubt, it's because we do not properly punish criminals in this country.
 
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Clete

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And if it's the lawful husband being accused of this act of force?
Why would that be relevant?

People are not punished because they are accused of a crime but because they've been convicted of one in a court of law. If a man murders his wife, is that relevant to whether he should be executed? No! Murderers, adulterers, rapists, kidnappers, child molesters, etc should be executed upon conviction - period.
 

Skeeter

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Why would it be okay to murder someone because their father was a rapist?
Same reason a person can be leave from the rubble of a collapsed building even though removal will mean the death of a person pinned next to them.
 

Skeeter

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there's nothing about yours that can't be changed with a change of "leadership".
How does this make sense? You play follow the leader; Pretend to know absolute dictates. I apply reason and evidence with one basic presupposition.
 

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Same reason a person can be leave from the rubble of a collapsed building even though removal will mean the death of a person pinned next to them.

There is never a reason to stop and intentionally kill an innocent person in order to save someone else. If the innocent person dies as a result of saving someone, it's a tragedy, but the goal is not "kill one person to save another," it's "try to save both if possible, even if one dies."
 

ok doser

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There is never a reason to stop and intentionally kill an innocent person in order to save someone else. If the innocent person dies as a result of saving someone, it's a tragedy, but the goal is not "kill one person to save another," it's "try to save both if possible, even if one dies."
Look at the part of Clete's question that the retard was answering. The scenario involved three lives - the mother, the child, the rapist. Killing the child doesn't save anybody's life.
 
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