End of Roe Vs Wade?

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Democrats Argue That Clarence Thomas Should Only Have 3/5 Of A Vote

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats in D.C. have lashed out at Justice Clarence Thomas following his vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, arguing that he should only get 3/5 of a vote in the Supreme Court.

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If we went by the original intent of the Constitution, Clarence Thomas would not have any vote at all.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Wrong.

God said "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."

Who are you to say otherwise?



If they care about raising their children in the best possible environment, they should.

Most mothers these days hate their children, though, and it's partly their own fault.



Yes, they should.



If they want children, they need to, if only for the sake of their child.



If they don't want a husband, then they shouldn't be having sex with anyone, which reduces unwanted pregnancies to zero, barring rape (which, in an ideal society, would be naturally deterred by putting rapists to death).

You think that verse is a command? So, are all those men who don't get married sinning or something? Paul seemed to have comments about how it's good for people not to be in marriages but it being better to get married than to burn with passion?

There's many a single parent who do a better job of raising their children than married couples. There's nothing wrong with the 'traditional paradigm' but it doesn't automatically equate to a better environment. Your comment about most mothers hating their children is just derisory and unsupportable rubbish.

No, they shouldn't be expected to and they aren't. You might think so and reckon that all people should live according to a set standard but so what? People aren't bound by other people's beliefs thankfully, in the West for the most part at any rate.

 

[Arthur Brain]

On what planet would this be promiscuity?

For some hardliners on the score - this one. Some think that any form of contraception is sinful also.

 

[Arthur Brain]

The Bible says to visit those in prison, but does not advocate imprisonment as a punishment.

The Bible says to protect the borders, but welcome the stranger.

The Bible says to care for the sick, but do not steal.

The Bible says to not mistreat widows and orphans.

But the Bible also says, in no uncertain terms, that killing the innocent is a capital crime.

Do you agree that children should have rights after they've been born? Food, water, shelter, education etc?

 

[Idolater]

If we went by the original intent of the Constitution, Clarence Thomas would not have any vote at all.

Dumb.

You're dumb.

 

[Idolater]

For some hardliners on the score - this one. Some think that any form of contraception is sinful also.

Marital relations are for two purposes; marital unity, and open to life.

Contraception is sinful. Which means, it violates Catholic ethics.

But that's not the same thing as criminal, or a rights violation.

 

[Idolater]

Do you agree that children should have rights after they've been born? Food, water, shelter, education etc?

Our Constitution does not limit how much subsidized welfare we can offer our people. It's not the same as universal human rights, which can never be morally abrogated without justification.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Marital relations are for two purposes; marital unity, and open to life.

Contraception is sinful. Which means, it violates Catholic ethics.

But that's not the same thing as criminal, or a rights violation.

Some people who get married don't want children. I thought you might regard contraception as sinful which is why I asked. Not all Catholics agree however but that's the same within any belief really.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Our Constitution does not limit how much subsidized welfare we can offer our people. It's not the same as universal human rights, which can never be morally abrogated without justification.

Surely all children have the basic rights to food, water, warmth, shelter and education?

 

[JudgeRightly]

You think that verse is a command?

The assumption is that they are getting married BEFORE "becoming one flesh."

So, are all those men who don't get married sinning or something?

Only if they have sex outside of marriage.

Paul seemed to have comments about how it's good for people not to be in marriages but it being better to get married than to burn with passion?

Yes, he did have comments about it.

There's many a single parent who do a better job of raising their children than married couples.

False.

A single mother does not have the same capacity to raise her child as does a married couple, simply because the single mother has to both provide for herself and her child AND raise her child, whereas the married mother only has to raise her child, while her husband provides for both her and her child.

That alone puts a married couple far ahead of any single parent.

There's nothing wrong with the 'traditional paradigm'

Then why use anything else?

but it doesn't automatically equate to a better environment.

The fact is that children raised in two-parent homes are MUCH better off than children raised in single-parent homes.

Your comment about most mothers hating their children is just derisory and unsupportable rubbish.

False.

No, they shouldn't be expected to and they aren't.

A woman who wants to have sex should be expected to get married first.

The stigma around the words whore and slut exists for a reason. People like you have removed the stigma from those words, and it has led to tens of millions of dead babies.

You might think so and reckon that all people should live according to a set standard but so what?

Because truth matters....

People aren't bound by other people's beliefs thankfully, in the West for the most part at any rate.

... And ideas have consequences.

Erroneous beliefs and belief systems inherently destroy the foundations of society.

 

[User Name]

Dumb.

You're dumb.

And yet, what I said is a fact. If we went by the original intent of the Constitution, Clarence Thomas would not have any vote at all.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Contraception is sinful.

Only if it kills the baby.

 

[Right Divider]

Surely all children have the basic rights to food, water, warmth, shelter and education?

Nobody has those "rights".

 

[Right Divider]

Paul seemed to have comments about how it's good for people not to be in marriages but it being better to get married than to burn with passion?

There was a specific reason for that at that time. I was not a general principle.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Do you agree that children should have rights after they've been born?

Whatever rights a child has, he has them from the moment of conception.

Food, water, shelter, education etc?

No one has the right to these.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Nobody has those "rights".

They do where I live and rightly so. So, once a child is born then what's it supposed to do if their parent doesn't meet those needs?

 

[Idolater]

Some people who get married don't want children.

Many even.

I thought you might regard contraception as sinful which is why I asked. Not all Catholics agree however but that's the same within any belief really.

I'm Catholic so I'm answering your question about sinfulness as a Catholic, and for Catholicism.

Not every Catholic lives out what Catholicism believes.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Whatever rights a child has, he has them from the moment of conception.



No one has the right to these.

Which apparently solely means the right to be born?

 

[User Name]

Contraception is sinful. Which means, it violates Catholic ethics.

Sinful? Okay. Illegal? No. At least, it shouldn't be. Just like abortion.

 

[Idolater]

Surely all children have the basic rights to food, water, warmth, shelter and education?

I know what you mean, but the word "right" doesn't enter into it. Rights are God-given, inherent, "inbuilt" to use your word.

We can and do democratically decide to subsidize various welfare measures for our people, some of which are food, water, warmth, shelter and education. Our Constitution permits this.