"Sounds like you've spent exactly no time investigating what actually happened."
I am ready to listen to exactly what happened. Here is your chance to correct my errant understanding of the Flood epic and I will be grateful to read your reply.
So start listening:
Look, I'm just taking it in as I see it based on the advantages we have living in this scientific age.
You're not doing a very good job.
Firstly the OT is not Christian Scripture, but Christians spend 90% of their time messing about in either the OT or Revelation, because that's where all the good stuff is. The end of the world, the flood, the talking snake, dragons and God smiting all those nasty humans. The stuff in the NT where Jesus speaks of love and charity, an equal distribution of food and resources, well, let's get back to the end of the world and the smiting.
Jesus spoke more about Hell and what happens to those who reject Him than the Old Testament ever did.
Also, Revelation is in the New Testament.
Secondly, Genesis was not written for a Creationist in 2022.
Sure it was.
Genesis was written for late Bronze Age peasants, labourers and all those illiterate and uneducated peoples suffering the drudgery of short, difficult lives.
If they were illiterate, then what's the point of writing it?
In other words, you're wrong. It was written as a record of history, to teach a lesson, and to provide a foundation for the rest of what would be written.
Which isn't exclusive to the Bible.
and a general global education system
Which turns bright young children into dull cookie-cutter replicas who can't tell the difference between their right hand and their left.
Parents educate their children better than any government based system.
so that we might revisit the wondrous writings of the Bible and allow them to reveal the deeper truths that this age gifts us.
All it takes to reveal the deeper truths in the Bible is to simply read the Bible, not reinterpret it however you will.
Thirdly, as every vibrating atom is part of Creation and natural order is the set of laws God has commanded physical reality to behave via, then anything in the Bible that contradicts natural order and science, (which is also a great and mighty gift from God, so that we might understand a fragment of His wondrous work), must then be superstition and dogma.
Nothing in the Bible contradicts "natural order and science."
It takes no stretch of understanding to realise the utter impossibility of a global flood as described in Genesis.
Saying it's impossible doesn't make it so, sir. PROVE IT!
We've given you the resources that you need to prove wrong.
On so many levels to accept this story in 2022 as literal is a crime against logic, science, common sense and Christianity itself.
False.
So no Mystery Machine for me, just ordinary, garden variety common sense gleaned from a great deal of reading the works of others.
In other words, you've allowed yourself to be brainwashed by people who reject the Bible, and are simply parroting what they want you to say.
Start thinking for yourself for once.
Religion is always destroyed from within, even the might and power of Rome could not touch the Teachings of Christ and His reality, yet literalism in 2022 has rendered certain factions of Christianity religious backwaters that still conform to Bronze Age beliefs in an age of science.
False.
It's a bit like those folk who reenact the Civil War and have battles dressed as knights.
Nonsense.
The words of the Bible are written down, okay. Words are written down in science publications as well and they are done so by highly educated scholars and are not Faith based, or a canon of belief from a religious tribe.
Appeals to authority and ridicule don't make your position right. They make it wrong.
Firstly the Bible was transcribed from an oral tradition into Aramaic, then into common, or publicly used Greek, from Greek to Latin and then into various languages including English.
Nope. The Hebrew language originated in Egypt during the time of Israel's living there, and Moses (being an educated man himself, would have used it (instead of the Egyptian hieroglyphics) to write Genesis (it would have made more sense, and would have been much easier to use) and the Pentateuch. The rest of the Old Testament would have also been written in Hebrew.
Then, it was translated into Greek in what is known as the Septuagint, which would have been commonly used for study in the times leading up to Jesus' birth and following.
And from Hebrew and Greek, it's been translated into many other languages, but not by translating into another language first. The Hebrew and Greek are (almost) always used when translating, so there's only a single translation step, not multiple like what you're claiming.
One that never happened.
Then there is the drift in the meaning of words and a cultural language itself. Just have a look at the works of Shakespeare, 16th century English and you can see how language is not static.
Three words: Dead Sea Scrolls
Compare them to modern Hebrew versions and they are, for all intents and purposes, identical.
Next, the OT is a compilation of lost religions plus Scripture from the religion of Moses.
False.
It's the Scripture of the Jewish religion, not the Christian religion.
Christianity began with Paul, who was given his doctrine by Jesus.
It comprises snippets of religions going back 6,000 years or more.
False.
What are the chances of that surviving many millennia in human hands?
The fact is that it DID survive, because God is capable of writing a book that can survive the test of time.
There is no question as to its original divine source, but nobody can claim it to be in an original state in context or content.
No one does.
People like myself, however, assert that Scripture was perfect when it was written, in its original manuscripts. The copies we have today are not those.
Now if I quote what I believe from my research
What research? All I've seen from you are assertions.
it will receive the same considered opinion that it always gets, instant dismissal and scorn and contempt.
That tends to happen when all you make are assertions.
I have read the Bible cover to cover
Doubtful.
and researched sections of it over and over. I doubt many Christians can make that claim.
Probably true.
As for evidence, a claim for a Global Flood, Adam being the first man, original sin, the Trinity, etc, etc requires evidence from the claimant,
All of those except for original sin are things I hold to.
You can find the evidence for them (barring original sin) in the Bible, and most of them are explained on
https://kgov.com
not the audience. In my many years of looking into this subject I have not seen a flake of substantive evidence for the Noahic Flood.
Supra.
There have been fossils of whales positioned horizontally, folds in rock, shell fossil beds, animal fossil beds, etc, etc, and ever single one of the examples put forward can be explained and dismissed by a true and honest appraisal.
kgov.com
kgov.com
Lastly, God does not hinge on a literal Genesis, only Creationist do.
Whatever that means...
God Created according to His own Will, not the misunderstanding of humans.
Says the human...
If you'd like to pick a particular point and work through it, I would only be too happy.
Says the one who has, so far, ignored everything I've said to him.
