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  • I saw that HC was going to Germany. That would probably have been fun, but don't have the possibility due to my duties here. Luther is a provocative thinker. His extreme divine voluntarism and the hidden God that follows from it are quite provoking, but there is something to it. It is essentially an assault on the human idol making mind that seeks to confine and define God within human limits and conceptions in favor of the God that is both in unapproachable light and that hides in darkness.

    Welker does touch on the atonement as sacrifice if I remember correctly. He analyzes it in terms of the concept of gift from some sociological theorists.

    I actually ordered that book by Oliver Crisp. Sounds like an interesting Christology, very Johannine.

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    You caught me... :chuckle:

    Sometimes I give away too much information in public, even if limited to VMs. I'll tell you more about it in a PM if you'd like. :)
    Also glad you're enjoying Vox, it's a regular source of mine, which I usually read either on my phone or my laptop between classes.

    I also follow Ezra Klein on Twitter. :eek: He links to a lot of articles, so I often get to them in that way.
    Wow, that is long. Not going to read it now, maybe some other time. I sure hope you do, it's well worth the time. And it will reinforce your related observation that Islam isn't a monolith, which then relates back to my social psychology and the idea of out-group homogeneity bias, which sees the "other" as all the same and one's in-group as diverse ("they" are all the same, "we" are diverse). So 'Islam' is all radical jihadists, and 'Western Christianity' has many different denominations, beliefs about salvation, creeds, etc.
    Think I can find the time if I take a bachelor degree over 4 years instead of 3. I would probably specialize in metaphysics and epistemology. Taking a course on the reformation and Martin Luther now. Finding the consequences Luther's most radical writings ("On the bondage of the will" and "The Heidelberg disputation") for reason, metaphysics, free will and political theology quite interesting. People often just think of sola scriptura and faith alone when they hear his name, but he has a lot of very radical theological ideas, especially his concept of the hidden God (deus absconditus).

    Did you enjoy Welker?

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    Just this morning I finished a long article in the New Yorker called The Avengers of Mosul. I have a hard copy subscription so that's what I was reading, here's the same article, different title in the online edition:

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/06/the-desperate-battle-to-destroy-isis

    What struck me is that these people are desperate to save their country before it's completely destroyed. They're being killed, their wives and children and parents and siblings are being killed in the name of something that isn't representative of the average Muslim. In fact, at one point one of the fighters mentions that the Prophet doesn't allow them to kill prisoners of war but he thinks his desire for revenge against those who killed his family may be stronger than his religion. It's very, very sobering. So easy for us to sit here in our safety and complain about refugees... we wouldn't last a week in their world.
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    Glad you enjoyed the link - I enjoy Vox, and read it regularly. It's fairly moderate and measured, so it seems it would be a good fit for you. And yes on that part about the exemption - especially since Trump is on record as promising priority for Syrian Christian refugees.Not that they aren't equally deserving, but that's the key word: equally.
    It's okay, kmo. I'm aware that I've been kind of relentless, so it's probably good for me to get a little pushback from someone I respect. I understand that dark cloud and I guess my way to deal with it is to hold as much of it up to the light as I can and hope that our institutions are strong enough to hold out.

    I did come across an article from Vox that could have been written by you - it has the pros and cons for each way of naming that executive order, and why.

    Should you call Trump’s executive order a “Muslim ban”? What about “extreme vetting”?
    A guide to the terms people have used for the president’s most controversial policy so far.
    He was very unhappy. I just asked him about it and he looked at me, sighed and said, "Oh my God..." Yep, he's a Chiefs fan all right. :plain: :eek:
    I mean he couldn't manage the talking point or the "idea"...to be 100% clear. I started to put 110% but that always makes me nervous, unsure of the actual scale involved. :noid:
    Uh oh... don't you hate it when that happens? I've downloaded an album based the expectations from one song, and been very disappointed. :chuckle:
    Thank you, kmo. I'll look her up. I'm glad she resonated with you so well, we all need that even when we don't know we're needing it.
    Thought you should know my son has decided that he roots for the Chiefs. Why? Because his mother calls him "little chief" and when he caught their name he was in and pulling hard the other day. :chuckle:
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