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All means all. Mighty means potent. The Hebrew is that clear.

You aren't following: if one omni, all omnis. Way ahead of the conversation to be making value statements that don't apply. Prove them wrong. Engage the thread. Prove them wrong.

Digs notwithstanding, argue the points. It is a pointless discussion to have vitriol involved here. "Fraud" doesn't work. These are not my thoughts of origin. I concur with minds before me that logically, if one omni, then all. Almighty (Omni-potent literally) is a scriptural given...

Somebody just told me I don't listen... Somebody just told me I don't listen... Iron sharpens iron, no? You are an independent interpreter? I appreciate you, but even with you and I alone, we are not the sum of Scripture understanding and wisdom. I'm not saying I disagree on this point...

LOL. Sounds oddly familiar. Why don't you understand that omni anything means omni everything? Let's try omnicompetent, an OV given with the chess analogy: If God knows all about chess, He knows every move possible (omniscient), has power to stop anything outside of the rules established...

Omni-intelligent? Works for me. If you understand something 'infinitely,' doesn't that entail all knowledge there-of? I believe the passage is omni-compelling. Infinite means infinite.

Makes sense. Thank you and good thread, Nick.

Wanted to hit these points: O.o Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite. The Jews believed this long before Plato, Aristotle, and Augustine. This is brief from a Jewish website but several of the Jewish 'foundations' are declare the omnis of...

I'm not talking about that text other than to say it absolutely 'doesn't' limit that knowledge, just gives 'hearts' as what else He knows all things about. You do too, the point of departure is how far we understand that knowledge. See Maimonides, a Jewish commentator on the Torah. Jews then...

In scope, agree but other passages lead to the broad perspective and disagreement. Open Theism caveats 'all things' as 'all things knowable' which is a derivative theology, a hypothesis that drives understanding of Who God is. I'd guess you've heard the logical statement: 'if one omni...

2nd Acts Dispensationalists, if I remember that class, believe that many of Jesus' statements had broader context. I believe they took 'whole world' to mean His work on the cross in scope. Thank you. I am not quite Mid Acts, but greatly appreciate the perspective and, as much as it leads...

My caveat in thread: You can study all you want from God's Word. Jews do, but they rejected Messiah. And, we are in a two-way relationship with Our Lord.

Yes. If man knows 'all things' in context it is talking about specifically their spiritual needs. They know what to believe and what to do. There is no contextual limitation with God. Context drives understanding. These verses cannot be pitted against God knowing all things. Context...

What was the purpose of Jesus saying 'God so loved the world?' by Mid Acts understanding? Appreciate your thread, ty.

No, it was a question. I'm trying to understand why that particular context. It would seem (yes? no?) that Jesus wanted to bring gentiles into the picture of His redemption. Perhaps entertain the Mid Acts position: How would gentiles have been included if Israel had accepted their...

Understood. Subject ✓ Verb ✓ You've elucidated it with me. We aren't in whole disagreement just me calling it God's. Man, in his fallen state has some characteristics of 'god' in that we are created in His image, though broken. If there is wisdom left, it is from Him. We likely...

Let me take a step back. I realize that the whole "Born again" applied specifically through Israel and that it conflates a bit. I don't want to be seen as objecting to that. Rather I'm trying to see, if only the moniker particularly is the problem or if 'born of Spirit' is yet our...

He passed away last year. He was Open Theist but believe, like many in the charismatic movement, he was more Covenant in theology. Even in our disagreements, it does help to know where we all were coming from.

Thank you. No, but the details were there in mind. I've been accused of being Mid Acts (accused isn't the right word, I've been told I'm well within Mid Acts thinking). In that, I agree a lot with Mid Acts but for me "whole world" means whole world. I suppose it places me a bit on the...

Realize you don't all agree among yourselves. It'll help. I do get this and understand. Let me ask: do you see any things 'that are the same' in this passage between Israel and us gentile Christians today? He didn't "so love the 'world?'" Naw, just answer whether anything is the same...