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I think it's the capacity to die that comes upon God in the flesh. Adam and Eve had the capacity to die from their creation. I don't think God has the capacity to die, nor do the angels (though I don't know for certain about the angels), but humans always have. That appears to change with the...

Sure. But those natures are imperfect. We're not perfectly depraved anymore, nor perfectly sanctified yet. Jesus, however cannot be anything but perfect in BOTH of His natures. If anything is impossible for one or the other nature with respect to the other or one, then there's a conflict...

I personally am looking forward to your explanation of how He can have two natures. I'm not disagreeing with you that He does, but it is beyond my ability to understand, as well as most Christians, if not all.

No, I don't think so. I tagged you because I referred to your thread, because I thought you and @Hilltrot had some things you might want to discuss. He seems to agree with your understanding of what Logos means, but doesn't think it is talking about the Son of God. And I told him he might enjoy...

Forgiveness granted. Apologies for pulling you in mid-conversation, but thought you and @Hilltrot, despite coming to different conclusions, share some similar premises. I agree with you here. I partially agree with you here. Jesus was the name given to the Son of God born to Mary. We have no...

If, as you say, wisdom is God, then you are acknowledging that there are at least two entities in the Godhead (I don't really like that term, but I don't currently have a better one), one of which was seemingly less than the other one. [Pro 8:22, 25-26, 30 KJV] 22 The LORD possessed me in the...

I've never seen a translation that used the word "father" in those verses. Your word replacements are getting the better of you. Ok. Then we are in agreement that the word is God. [Jhn 1:14 KJV] 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the...

One of the biggest reasons for me is the media and social media censorship of the evidence being presented. Plus, I have a very trustworthy friend who is working with those investigating the vote totals data. He, looking at the data, is seeing artifacts that can't be explained without resorting...

[Jhn 1:1-34 KJV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light...

Another strawman--that it has to be a single verse, as if all concepts presented by God must be in Twitter format. And your verse says the opposite of what you say it says. The fact that Jesus for some reason needed to explain that He wasn't the same as His Father tells us that He was...

Actually, since you pointed out that the bible in several ways identifies Jesus Christ as God the Son, despite not using that phrase directly, its an argument from strawman.

I would propose "father of the everlasting ones", similar to [Gen 4:20-21 KJV] 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle. 21 And his brother's name [was] Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

Well, that was my point. What did Jesus say, considering his audience, which I read recently that you agree with. I don't understand your two statements that follow. How can the same thing be either all true or half true while also being all true or none true? I think you are arguing my...

It sounds more like you put your trust in disarmament.

Expression of His creativity? Certainly His capacity for creation wasn't new, but the execution was.

I told you. It's not necessary for the wording, and it doesn't naturally come from the wording. The text only gives "both" when your theological construct makes it do so, to use your words. "Before Abraham was" places the context in time. "I Am" describes the who. Was the "I Am" existing before...

I'm not trying to fit that definition, any more than John was, nor the KJV translators, nor the ones in between. You're the one that is trying to cram that definition into the word, in order to try to make your point. John wanted to advance a concept that was difficult to verbalize with any...

Yes, I know. But it doesn't mean that.

I'm having to review where we were on this. You're saying that Jesus is equating Himself with God, and because God is timeless, Jesus is claiming to be timeless. (the other option is that Jesus is NOT equating Himself with God, and is not claiming to be timeless.) If God is "timeless", then...

You seem to think I am trying to mischaracterize. What I'm saying is that you haven't made your case, and that your points do more harm to your case than they help it. To repeat them without further elaboration in the face of disagreement is a further admission on your part that you have nothing...