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    Our Moral God

    That's difficult. We know that God is alive ("the living God"). He thinks and acts willfully. Humans, animals, and angels and demons all seem to do the same. Death is a little easier--it's not the opposite of life but the cessation of life. A rock is not dead, because it has never been alive. A...
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    Our Moral God

    Consider this: trees are made of wood. Then consider the corollary: anything made of wood is a tree. The first statement is a connection between a specific and a general thing. The second reverses the connection. This reversal (the corollary) works in some cases but not all. It doesn't...
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    Our Moral God

    I know. Why? Does one mean the other? That was the conversation we were having.
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    Our Moral God

    These two quotes from your post eloquently encapsulate the issue. You define death as "separated from God". But then you have to add “utterly” to it. Why? Was he just mostly dead before that? I think you’ve been watching too much Princess Bride. Is Satan ever described as dead in the Bible...
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    Our Moral God

    I missed this reply. Sorry about that, JR. If God is something that He imparts to us, then we are Him if that thing He imparts is integral to our being. And let’s take it to extremes to see how it works out. Is Satan alive? Will Satan be alive when cast into lake of fire? Then God, if He is...
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    Our Moral God

    But love is not the very incarnation of Jesus. That is, when we love, Jesus is not transubstantiated in us, is He? And His love is not an abstraction, but an active, visible love--in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Because it defines the logos as a person--he--rather than as...
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    Our Moral God

    If God is life itself, that could mean either that God is the source of life for all creatures or God is all alive creatures. I don't with the latter, do you?
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    Our Moral God

    Hi Bradley. I don't understand your answer. Are you saying love IS God?
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    Our Moral God

    I listened to that broadcast. This thread reminded me of it. I've discussed Clete's take on God is logic before, too. I don't like him claiming the corollary, though. Logic is not God, just like love is not God. But those are different topics.
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    Our Moral God

    Hi Clete. Somewhere in all of that, I missed your point. I understand you feel like you've proved God to be moral, but you talked some about the necessity of His morality. Does the morality of God necessitate a particular morality? Or is morality purely what God wants it to be?
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    What is Jesus saying here?

    I'm in agreement with pretty much everything you say, but your number 2 is all that's needed to say it. "I am" was a shortened form of "I am that I am", or the self-existing one. Jesus made the same claim. I'm just saying that if Jesus defines Himself in terms of time in a passage, it seems...
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    SCOTUS just handed the left every national election from now on!

    That's why we're in such bad shape! I knew there was something wrong.
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    SCOTUS just handed the left every national election from now on!

    This is what God deals with all the time. If “the right” repents and becomes “the righteous”, the left won’t be able to win.
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    What is Jesus saying here?

    I don’t think #1 is necessary if #2 is true. If He is who was and is and is to come, then He is able to function within time, or at least “was” is applicable.
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    Vaccine causes anaphylactic shock

    Try this one: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/placebos-used-vaccine-trials-do-not-please-everyone
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    Electoral College: does Winner Takes All make sense?

    As @Right Divider said, the states elect the president. Those states that divide their electors are schizophrenic. Their legislatures have abdicated the difficult task of selecting the president the state wants. This includes my state of Colorado, which has decided to deem itself just a...
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    What is Jesus saying here?

    That seems pretty contorted, oatmeal. Even without the connection to the name of God here, there is something about Jesus that makes him greater than Abraham, his ancestor, just as he is called David's lord (master), though he is descended from David. If he was only before Abraham (and...
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    Vaccine causes anaphylactic shock

    Protect millions from a hyped up disease that can be treated fairly easily if doctors are allowed to do so. Who wants to take a politicized vaccine that skipped normal vaccine animal testing, that temporarily reduces the chance of catching a politicized disease?
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    Vaccine causes anaphylactic shock

    I heard they used the meningitis vaccine as the placebo. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health/placebos-used-vaccine-trials-do-not-please-everyone
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    President Donald J Trump, Nobel Prize Nominee ..... Twice

    Not to mention Obama, awarded for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people".
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