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You have your eisegesis, I have mine. That yours contradicts mine is NOT PROOF that I am wrong...it is only support for your thinking that I am wrong. I have considered yours all my life and rejected it as leading to blasphemy. You may note that nowhere in the Bible is there any statement that...

And Jesus called sinners good seed in the parable of the tares when none are good, not one. It is obvious that the terms innocent and good etc are not definitive but conform to context.

Peter calls Christians sheep in an allusion to the Jews being called sheep by Isaiah: 1 Peter 2:25 For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have RETURNED to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls. Well,TO RETURN, one must have been there before, at least, according to the normal...

How did His sheep get lost? 1. The fault was in the Shepherd...He sent them as corrupt out into the world (Matt 13:36-39) to take their chances in the evil world. 2. The fault is in the Shepherd's enemy, the wolf in serpent's clothing dragged the sheep off and He could not or decided to not...

Saying it doesn't prove it. The people who sang HIS praises at the creation of the world (Job 38:7) certainly pre-existed the world. If them, why not us? Are we not sons of GOD? And no, angel does not refer to a race of beings, it is a job description. And yes, they are people too, not robots.

There were two kinds of sin before earth as I have explained already: the sin of the rejection of YHWH's deity and the sin of rebellion by some of those who had previously out their faith in HIS deity and truthfulness and so became HIS elect. The sin of the demons was to put their faith in the...

What is taught to me IN scripture I know about but my memories of that time are as missing as everyone else's... JOB Job 38:7 ...while the morning stars sang together and all the Sons of GOD shouted for joy? While talking to Job about the creation GOD asks where was Job when those watching the...

It is because you reject our life before earth that you can't agree.

The bible is totally full of of truth for us about how GOD thinks. Your protestations that we cannot understand that is a deke to avoid dissecting the doublethink dissonance I accuse you of dwelling within...you can only deny.

We die due to sinfulness at every and any age...not because of reaching any so called age of accountability. I know we are not punished for Adam's sin, only our own, but neither are we stuck with the consequences for his sin, ie, death. because as Rom 5:12 we all die in Adam's death because we...

By the logical implication of your theology that HE created the system of human progeny and hooked our lives into Adam's sinfulness. Adam and Eve chose to sin...but we didn't?? We are stuck with the mistake? No man dies for his father's sin yet we die for our father, Adam's, sin.

How is the consequences passed down to all flesh if it was not by the will of GOD!? This blasphemy declares that by HIS will, every person comes into existence as corrupt stinking rags - including the elect, HIS Bride ! HE didn't even curse any of Satan's children with this but all of mankind...

No ma'am...I hate the Calvinist UNconditional election with all my heart because it implies (though they try to hide it) an UNconditional condemnation by passing over some people for election due to no reason at all. Nor do Calvinists accept my adherence to our pre-conception existence before...

Then what is the meaning of the explanation (ie, no hyperboly nor metaphor) of the parable of the weeds Matt 13:36-39? IF GOD created us with a tendency to sin then HE is not perfectly benevolent. I contend that HE is perfectly benevolent, ie, loving, righteous and just so I believe HE does not...

Because we were elected, that is, given the promise of salvation if we should ever need it, before the foundation of the world.

The fact that children do not understand their guilt does not prove they are innocent. The fact they do not, as new humans planted, not created, into the world, understand the difference between good and evil does not prove they did not at some time previously have that understanding. Only...

ImCo: The Church was created with the promise of election to heaven to all who wanted it as each person who wanted it put their faith in HIM to fulfil the promise of election in them and they became Church members before the foundation of the world. Everyone who became a part of the Church did...

Yes, I agree though the marriage is not concluded until the wedding of the Lamb when He goes from Bridegroom to Husband. But I continue to ask: when was His bride the Church created? If on earth then they were created in sin as filthy rags liable to judgement and I have decided that I cannot...

Herein lies the rub... You are willing to believe that Adam was not created evil nor were Satan and the fallen demons but we, you and I were created as people in sin proven by the fact that people die in all stages of infancy and death is the wages of sin not of life. Death is NOT natural but a...

In my Christian opinion, this question is based upon a completely wrong pov that has led many to disrespect and heresy. Nothing was missing from GOD's perfect, complete existence when HE decided to create those in HIS image. HE created us for us to be blessed by our ability to share HIS perfect...