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Understand your contention, but 'good' is in the eye of the Omni. Whatever He made would be 'good' in the sense that it reflects the perfect will of the Omnipotent because it'd follow His being and rules. What we call 'good' is a reflection of His values and intent, thus leads to...

Questions are to elicit answers from another's perspective. Of course I don't understand per say, hence...questions. This discussion is to 'help' me understand and hopefully give the other side's concerns. Let me float it this way: Almost all of us believe Omni. Enter an Open Theist...

Nor then, by extension, Omnicompetent if you follow the links and logic. Again, this does not mean omnicompetent then? Does Open Theism mean in the context of omnicompetent, He cannot lose unless He is competent to allow such? How is this not all-powerful, all-knowledgeable, and sovereign...

The Septuagint which Our Lord Jesus read from, says "παντοκράτωρ" : All-potent is the meaning of El Shaddai. Fact.

You didn't read the link? Maybe you missed the post? He gives the context for the assertion and the whys. Challenge accepted. Scripture is replete that God is all-powerful. "Nothing can thwart Thee, Nothing is impossible," etc. Scripture is so clear that God is omnipotent, that it is...

Consider their context a moment: God 'who is greater' knows all things. The sentence legitimately goes beyond hearts in that sentence. I see their point.

All means all. Mighty means potent. The Hebrew is that clear.

You aren't following: if one omni, all omnis. Way ahead of the conversation to be making value statements that don't apply. Prove them wrong. Engage the thread. Prove them wrong.

Digs notwithstanding, argue the points. It is a pointless discussion to have vitriol involved here. "Fraud" doesn't work. These are not my thoughts of origin. I concur with minds before me that logically, if one omni, then all. Almighty (Omni-potent literally) is a scriptural given...

Somebody just told me I don't listen... Somebody just told me I don't listen... Iron sharpens iron, no? You are an independent interpreter? I appreciate you, but even with you and I alone, we are not the sum of Scripture understanding and wisdom. I'm not saying I disagree on this point...

LOL. Sounds oddly familiar. Why don't you understand that omni anything means omni everything? Let's try omnicompetent, an OV given with the chess analogy: If God knows all about chess, He knows every move possible (omniscient), has power to stop anything outside of the rules established...

Omni-intelligent? Works for me. If you understand something 'infinitely,' doesn't that entail all knowledge there-of? I believe the passage is omni-compelling. Infinite means infinite.

Makes sense. Thank you and good thread, Nick.

Wanted to hit these points: O.o Psalm 147:5 Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite. The Jews believed this long before Plato, Aristotle, and Augustine. This is brief from a Jewish website but several of the Jewish 'foundations' are declare the omnis of...

I'm not talking about that text other than to say it absolutely 'doesn't' limit that knowledge, just gives 'hearts' as what else He knows all things about. You do too, the point of departure is how far we understand that knowledge. See Maimonides, a Jewish commentator on the Torah. Jews then...

In scope, agree but other passages lead to the broad perspective and disagreement. Open Theism caveats 'all things' as 'all things knowable' which is a derivative theology, a hypothesis that drives understanding of Who God is. I'd guess you've heard the logical statement: 'if one omni...

2nd Acts Dispensationalists, if I remember that class, believe that many of Jesus' statements had broader context. I believe they took 'whole world' to mean His work on the cross in scope. Thank you. I am not quite Mid Acts, but greatly appreciate the perspective and, as much as it leads...

My caveat in thread: You can study all you want from God's Word. Jews do, but they rejected Messiah. And, we are in a two-way relationship with Our Lord.

Yes. If man knows 'all things' in context it is talking about specifically their spiritual needs. They know what to believe and what to do. There is no contextual limitation with God. Context drives understanding. These verses cannot be pitted against God knowing all things. Context...

What was the purpose of Jesus saying 'God so loved the world?' by Mid Acts understanding? Appreciate your thread, ty.