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Lol, I noticed BUT 1) I do it too AND it is usually JR that points it out! He's also a grammar nazi! (I actually appreicate the corrections because it also bugs me too) meh, we aren't perfect. I've come to also not get to hung up on some theology misapprehension. 2) I want to be 'right'...

Ouch, it hurts. Ouch.

🆙 Clete, Specifically this: Not the 'intellect' part, I agree, rather the 'choice.' I do also agree with you qualified. Perhaps JR wants me to get a second opinion. We in sin have choice. Prior, in the Garden, I believe Adam loved completely and well 'before' he ate of the tree of...

Yikes! Romans 10: 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of...

A couple more that need to be address whether I follow above or not: The tree rather represented knowledge of good and evil, specifically the difference between the two. Adam loved up 'until' the point He 'chose', not prior. He didn't just 'choose' not to eat, there was no desire. He...

I've been in general agreement with Clete on this: God can do anything BUT if you mean "would that be consistent with His character?" then: "Good point. God in 'ability' can easily unmake us. 'God in His being, would/could He annihilate man?' and I might have to side with you." Will...

Or vise versa, it literally is this: An argument from silence is a argument based on the absence of evidence. I said 'if' Derf felt that your argument had 'nothing' to do with the passage, he may have a point. Don't get cocky and read. I wasn't even talking to you! (Still love you, you...

Maybe Clete has inside information, ever think about that! You don't know! :p (possibly died in Turkey, hanged but....)

It'd show you understand what an argument from silence is, but didn't he give you scripture? Perhaps I see Derf's point if he is saying 'these scriptures have nothing to do with what you are asserting, you are effectively arguing an idea nowhere in scripture." 🤔 How important to the...

"Morality" has confusing definitions (man-centered, one of a definition of man's values as central, also the reason I had a hard time with 'morals' relating to God in Clete's thread a bit ago). Regardless, there is no moral problem with not giving choice. Follow please: Jesus prayed "not...

Patience. From experience, "yes, if I'm not Mid Acts, a LOT of this I am (was) dense on." I believe I've finally grasped this from you and Clete and actually appreciate what you are saying. It took awhile. "Stupid" is okay but a horse-pill hard to get down. Do you have one of these...

Culminating with Megiddo, the annihilation and dispersion of Israel? Meh, I'm okay with the disagreement. I 'think' I'm picking up where you are headed so I don't think it pertinent. I believe the context strongly supports the take, so if you want to discuss it out ask but I believe at this...

Thank you, actually good information for grasping what Mid Acts is, and what Mid Acts isn't. Appreciate it. I'm following so far, and yes, Calvinistic, but I have no problem with that. I've been labelled a Calvinist and a Mid Acts theologian specifically because of theology that agrees...

:applaud: (I'm going to cut some) True Derf, you've made a mistake. As nice as I can say, you've made a blunder in your use of terms. An 'argument from silence' is fairly specific. Derf: I've made a few mistakes. It was either Right Divider or Judge Rightly that corrected my use of...

Meh, sorry, I'd hoped I might 'help' rather than hinder. Such was my desire but I've been working overtime, forgive the distraction. I'll just read it for a bit and get what you want me and others to get from the thread. I in NO WAY meant to hijack (at least when I'm awake, that's true)...

The question is, does God ever give one person one direction, and another a different direction? For instance, was Hosea told to marry a woman of ill-repute? Was Israel proper told not to do so? If so, THAT is an example of a 'contradiction' as that 'one person is told specifically one...

Yes, am aware. Granted I've not really looked at Mid Acts before last year, but I have this part down. All I was saying is that He'd been telling the disciples He was going to die. Agree, why I said "except Jesus" there. Right but you read it with me in Chapter 16, Peter took Him aside and...

Same book: Matthew 21From that time on Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and that He must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. 22 Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke...

Kingdom, then and perhaps included "Death Burial Resurrection." Jesus certainly had this in mind. Disciples were very caught up in the Jewish Kingdom and coming of Messiah and had a difficult time grasping what He was telling them. You are not alone on the full spectrum of...