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It isn't what even most Calvinists believe. The ones in this thread, of course do.

Which is NOT "Salvation before salvation." That is just sloppy.

Do you even try to read critically ANY of your material? :sigh: It makes up meaningless words trying poorly, to be grandiose (as it does with adjectives as well). Utter rubbish as far as readability. Like I'd said, if it were written by middle school kids I'd find it amusing. High...

🤔 "insult to" "assault upon" Not at all. It is an 'insult' or 'assault' upon what you believe about God, sure, it could be. Okay....(awkward sentence). It does. "All" means all.

Of course it did, whether you liked it or not. You have PLENTY of good minds in this thread telling you to shape up and learn some things. My addition? Hardly necessary. You will either choose to listen or you'll 'stand pat' with sub par theology of your choosing.

So, your assumptions vs. mine, vs. another's? Or should we just read and grasp scripture WITHOUT assumptions first? 🤔 So let me see if I follow: All humans put forth their interpretations (including you), but only yours is not monstrous? 🤔 Your assumption: God is 'monstrous' for...

Galatians 1: 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say...

🆙 A bit of a problem here, is that scripture says the wicked were made for destruction. Proverbs 16:4 While 'made' is the thrust of the verse, not 'for the day of destruction' "for" yet conveys a connection and reading my bible, I have to allow it to make me, instead of me making it...

Answer first: Yes. He doesn't want weeds to be weeds. Rephrasing the question I said 'yes' to: If God is not willing that any should perish, will any perish? Yes. While He prepares the wicked for destruction, it was not His intent, according to the wheat and tares analogy. "An enemy...

Almost every reference has it the other way around: Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, [then] you will be saved. We have to be careful that our constructs do not rewrite scriptures. We can and...

He causes the rain to fall on the just and unjust. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for...

A friend is planning an Area 51 motorcycle trip in the next couple of years. I'm not as interested in UFO's, but the areas around those places are beautiful and I'll go. He seems about like you, open to the possibility. C.S. Lewis wrote his Space Trilogy upon the premise and it brought...

At first I was like "Awesomely tragic, but funny?" 🤔 THEN I looked it up, the guy lived but not before being covered in cheese!

No need for being defensive, just enjoying your and Dozer's ("Doser") back and forth. "This is an A and B conversation, C your way out" would be fine, especially if I'm no help at all. "Men in Black" and "Sting" in your avatar... connected? (again, if I'm a distraction, you can make the...

Uh Oh, just doubled-down...

A bit vague in this translation, but it doesn't mean what you thought: "wiser" means 'more shrewd' in context. If you aren't a Christian, does it prove my point? 🤔 If you are, just not one for more education? It is an aside from the intent of the thread, but the last I looked, the...

Did YOU think you proved something? O.o I've plenty of ego, but as we've talked before, the URANTIA is hung up on fleshly considerations, not me. IF it appeals to you, it is in the flesh. It is "Only natural" in its own statements Joe. It literally says so more than once. Are YOU...

As you'd imagine, the majority on the planet, even among Christians: cuss and swear. The long-standing position has been that cussing and swearing reveals a lack of vocabulary, lack of education, and "Poverty of Vocabulary." Recent research shows that it 'may in fact, be the opposite.' I...

"People like you" is vocabulary deficient. It is a perjorative. Yet PETER, called all of his writing scripture. You again are illiterate of what scripture actually says. The UB has to literally throw out the New Testament as well as the Old. In Acts, we learn Paul talked with and was...

LOL, there are 'billions' in the world now. Who cares how many languages a book only 20 people (exaggerated for effect) believe is written in? There are LOTS of amateur E-books nobody wants to read.