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  1. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    It is the ONLY thing I came away from that dismal quote with: How you and that awful book trample the Savior. That and I truly want you to know you are going to stand before Him for the constant attacks. The UB is an abomination and it couldn't be worse if Satan himself stood up and said...
  2. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    YOU know your book tramples the Bible. I believe you knew it before you ever started this thread. This isn't a Urantia website. I'm still perplexed Knight ever said 'yes' to this thread. It tramples Christianity all day and night in the most abusive and hateful ways. It is beyond me...
  3. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    Remember I HALF agree with you. Where we depart is where YOU start speculating INSTEAD of just reading what it means. As soon as YOU stop making assumptions, you'll be Biblical. Notice that English also, conveys equivalence 'and' here. For a great Greek discussion, read here. Again...
  4. Lon

    Trump Impeachment Trial Following Capitol Hill

    Well, that's one take. I'd like to know 'why' he believes it. It 'seems' to me he is equating 'feminism' here. Certainly, since plastics have entered our kitchens, we are all dealing with more estrogen than we'd like to have to (well, half of us anyway)... 🤔
  5. Lon

    Trump Impeachment Trial Following Capitol Hill

    Accountability is a good thing, but it should be done by those, who themselves are accountable. There will always be a dark cloud over politicians and judges who allowed the eradication/abuse of a race both during the Civil War and today. Today, over 80% of abortions are by 17% of the...
  6. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    The 'quick note' isn't correct though one wiki article agrees with you (that article is also incorrect): Galatians 2:20 is one example: τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ the case endings are the same given as identical thus Son of God/ God the Son. "Of" has a Greek equivalent thus 'of' in English as...
  7. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    Yeah, I agree with you, or lack thereof, but He is worthy of our correct apprehension of Him and He certainly has written to us a text that we can depend on. If one grasps the text, then one can grasp what it says rightly. In some ways, I'm glad of the discussion but those who have...
  8. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    It is 'one' way to reconcile the difference, but is it accurate to scripture? As far as I grasp scriptures, no. You are confusing a proper Noun with an adjective: God vs godly. The scripture presents Jesus as "God" a noun John 20:28 For the most part, those without grammar educations...
  9. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    So and what???? It is 'excuse.' The Pharisees DID think that and picked up stones. Jesus also said "Before Abraham was" THEN "I Am." Do you unitarains/arians actually ever get good grades in English and have studied any foreign languages????? It doesn't appear so (to date, ever).
  10. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    No, you really haven't. You've simply read your bible for that long. There is a HUGE difference between reading AND HAVING THE TOOLS. You are a biblical tinkerer. I'll catch your years here shortly, but WHAT WE DID WITH THEM is of incredibly greater importance than their passage. You get...
  11. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    Incorrect. "When you have seen me, you have SEEN the Father." Do YOU actually grasp that? You cannot wave a wand or a hand-wave dismissal like all Unitarians/Arians TRY to do. It cannot be done. YOU rob the Son. YOU do. Just as I, YOU will stand before Him, COMPLETELY without this...
  12. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    So 'the Glory I had with you before the world' means nothing to you. As I said, 1) untenable scripturally, and 2) ignores and harms scripture truths. That onus is upon you. Trinitarians don't do this. You can try, but we embrace EVERY scripture. Unitarians/Arians? Trample, severely.
  13. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    So instead of grasping his point, you treat the subject and him with childish reverse psychology. If you are this inept? Forgiven. If you really understood his 'casting pearls' statement, it was to not throw something at another's feet (like the PRECIOUS blood of Jesus), for it to be...
  14. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    See? It literally tries to 'teach' me something (wrongly and ineptly) but asks nothing of me at all. Worse? It treats the blood of Jesus and the problem of sin with complete contempt AND embrace of those sins. The UB is demonic, satanic. The Son wrestled in the Garden until great drops of...
  15. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    I've often seen well-meaning Trinitarians arguing even against their own 'arian' part, so understand some of your frustration. It makes them often, at least functionally tritheists. Because of that, there is often confusion on just and exactly where we agree and where we disagree. The...
  16. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    We (I) don't ignore them. It is why I'm half Arian. I do see those scripture YET whatever conclusion I come to MUST incorporate "My Lord and my God." It simply must. There is no way to not do that without robbing Him of His rightful claims. I definitely don't want to be the one that...
  17. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    I'm not Jewish. I simply knew and know that the God of Israel is the only God. So does the Urantia, btw, they didn't start a new rendition of God, they just reinvented, literally, the parts they didn't like or thought were inappropriate. I did the opposite: I wrested with God, like Jacob...
  18. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    It is. It isn't a doctrine of 'knowing it all' but a doctrine eschewing overt assumption that CLEARLY tramples other scriptures in the process. You and Modalists are exact opposites on Biblical scripture, trampling each other's 'proof texting' but never grasping both of you 'rationalize'...
  19. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    What an accusation! How many kids are alive today because you exist on the planet? I'm not trying to do comparisons, just trying to get you to stop your 'business as usual' knee-jerk reaction and actually contemplate another's view. Too introverted for that? You aren't going to listen...
  20. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    No, it is just that I was alive at that time. The 'hippy' movement is the 'New Age' movement. The movement is fraught with sentiment first, truth later, as is the UB. Jesus told the Samaritan woman she needed to Worsip in truth AND Spirit, not just reject out of sentimentality. The UB...
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