17 Year Old Shot And Killed By Cop

[Granite]

http://www.eatoncounty.org/images/D...ney/Press_Releases/Guilford_Press_Release.pdf

Page 9: " The trajectory was from the right-to-left, from the front-to-back, and downward. The shot occurred at close, near-contact range, as evidenced by soot on the skin."

Page 7: "While he rolled slightly to his side and used both hands to clear the
gun (ejecting the unfired cartridge), Sgt. Frost was still being hit on his head. Sgt.Frost then turned the gun toward Deven and fired seven times in rapid succession. Once the shots were fired, the attack stopped. Deven fell to Sgt. Frost's side but was still on top of him."

I smell a rat.

 

[annabenedetti]

Because they weren't sitting still. Deven likely bent over at times during the fight.

"Once the shots were fired, the attack stopped. Deven fell to Sgt. Frost’s side but was still on top of him. Sgt. Frost pulled himself from underneath Deven"

 

[ok doser]

Cuts and lumps look worse with dried blood and later with bruising, yeah that surely justifies murder. Stand your ground, right ?

what happened to the pics?



and yes, assaulting a police officer is a reeeeeel good way to yerself shot

 

[patrick jane]

The fact is, this cop's panic and lack of experience/training was obvious. He looked like a rookie and he thought the kid was calling the militia ? Is there a lot of militia hangin' in Eaton MN ?

 

[annabenedetti]

http://www.eatoncounty.org/images/Departments/Prosecuting%20Attorney/Press_Releases/Guilford_Press_Release.pdf

Page 9: " The trajectory was from the right-to-left, from the front-to-back, and downward. The shot occurred at close, near-contact range, as evidenced by soot on the skin."

Page 7: "While he rolled slightly to his side and used both hands to clear the
gun (ejecting the unfired cartridge), Sgt. Frost was still being hit on his head. Sgt.Frost then turned the gun toward Deven and fired seven times in rapid succession. Once the shots were fired, the attack stopped. Deven fell to Sgt. Frost's side but was still on top of him."

I smell a rat.

GMTA.

 

[Granite]

More from page 9:

"One bullet entered Deven's front upper right chest, high on
his chest and below the collar bone. It traveled into his right lung, right
hemidiaphragm, liver, right kidney, and back. It did not exit the body. A
deformed jacketed bullet was found in his right lower back. The trajectory
was minimally right-to-left, front-to-back, and steeply downward."

 

[annabenedetti]

The fact is, this cop's panic and lack of experience/training was obvious. He looked like a rookie and he thought the kid was calling the militia ? Is there a lot of militia hangin' in Eaton MN ?

That's right, I'd forgotten that part. Calling the militia?

 

[Granite]

From page 18:

"Once on the ground, Sgt. Frost's movements were restricted because of their positioning: he was pinned to the ground on his back because Deven was sitting on his waist/hips."

This entire story is rotten and simply doesn't add up.

 

[GuySmiley]

Now we are into conspiracy theory land, have fun.

 

[annabenedetti]

One says "steeply downward," from the entrance wound "high on his chest," to where the bullet lodged in Deven's "right lower back."

The fatal shot to the head was downward, from the "upper right front scalp" to the "back of the neck."

How are those possible, if Deven was sitting on Frost?

Because they weren't sitting still. Deven likely bent over at times during the fight.

"Once the shots were fired, the attack stopped. Deven fell to Sgt. Frost’s side but was still on top of him. Sgt. Frost pulled himself from underneath Deven"

Now we are into conspiracy theory land, have fun.

Does that mean you don't know how those trajectories were possible if Deven was sitting on Frost?

 

[ok doser]

Does that mean you don't know how those trajectories were possible if Deven was sitting on Frost?

if i'm a cop being attacked by a criminal, i'm going to empty my clip into him and shoot for center mass

you know - to stop him

 

[GuySmiley]

Does that mean you don't know how those trajectories were possible if Deven was sitting on Frost?

Yes, I know how they were all possible. Deven was sitting on Frost, they were struggling. They were both moving around. Deven bent over Frost at times so the bullet traveled downward. Downward in this case is in relation to Deven's body. Deven sat up at times, so bullets traveled upward. Other shots were at no significant angle up or down so the report doesn't mention it. It all very possible and the prosecutor knew that and stated that in the report. To disagree now is to enter your own conspiracy fantasy land.

 

[annabenedetti]

Yes, I know how they were all possible. Deven was sitting on Frost, they were struggling. They were both moving around. Deven bent over Frost at times so the bullet traveled downward. Downward in this case is in relation to Deven's body. Deven sat up at times, so bullets traveled upward. Other shots were at no significant angle up or down so the report doesn't mention it. It all very possible and the prosecutor knew that and stated that in the report. To disagree now is to enter your own conspiracy fantasy land.

Deven bent over at times and sat up at times all in the space of "less than five seconds?"

"All seven shots were fired in less than five seconds."

 

[GuySmiley]

Deven bent over at times and sat up at times all in the space of "less than five seconds?"

"All seven shots were fired in less than five seconds."

I can bend over in 1 second. Even faster when I was young.

Take it easy, avoid the obvious joke there! :chuckle:

 

[ok doser]

I can bend over in 1 second. Even faster when I was young.

probably even faster if you're having bullets pumped into you

 

[patrick jane]

I can bend over in 1 second. Even faster when I was young.

Take it easy, avoid the obvious joke there! :chuckle:

I can name that tune in 1 note !!!

 

[Granite]

Now we are into conspiracy theory land, have fun.

Either Frost was "pinned" or he wasn't. Either the shots were fired at a sharp downward trajectory, or they weren't. The report tries to have it both ways: By saying Frost was "pinned," they can say he was nearly helpless, and yet at the same time, the best they can say is that it was "likely" both Guildford and Frost moved around during the struggle. So, which was it? Was Frost "pinned," or not?

This whole thing stinks.

 

[GuySmiley]

Either Frost was "pinned" or he wasn't. Either the shots were fired at a sharp downward trajectory, or they weren't.

Or some were and some weren't like the report says.

The report tries to have it both ways: By saying Frost was "pinned," they can say he was nearly helpless, and yet at the same time, the best they can say is that it was "likely" both Guildford and Frost moved around during the struggle. So, which was it? Was Frost "pinned," or not?

This whole thing stinks.

His hips could be pinned and his arms and upper body could be free to move.

 

[patrick jane]

Or some were and some weren't like the report says.


His hips could be pinned and his arms and upper body could be free to move.

Yeah, because the kid got stronger with each shot into his body. I'm sure I could still keep somebody pinned with 5 or 6 bullets in me

 

[Granite]

Or some were and some weren't like the report says.

From page 18: "During the fight, both combatants were likely moving their arms and bodies, which explains the different bullet trajectories."

One would think Frost would be able to actually explain this himself. Either he didn't, or we're not privy to information he provided on this topic--which is unlikely. If he had, the report wouldn't need to use weasel words to explain how an officer "pinned" to the ground would still be able to move freely.

What the report's asking us to believe is that Frost was

a) pinned, yet able to move
b) able to fire several shots from a sharp downward trajectory while pinned to his back on the ground
c) and remained pinned by the body of his assailant after seven shots had been fired

This doesn't hold up. And even the report doesn't use unequivocal language here.