gcthomas
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We arrest and prosecute people who assault police.
You seem to want them executed without trial at the roadside.
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17 Year Old Shot And Killed By Cop
- Thread starter patrick jane
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We arrest and prosecute people who assault police.
You seem to want them executed without trial at the roadside.
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Wrong. I have clearly stated that *bad apple cops* should be confronted in court. Unlike you, I do not encourage civilians to initiate or participate in a roadside brawl.
gcthomas
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Yes, you said that. But you are taking the side they'd want you to take in this, regardless.
Extremist Liberal logic - the only acceptable roadside death, is that of a cop regardless of circumstance.
Correct. That's what they count on--enough "good people" remain uncomfortable with holding cops to account, so it rarely if ever happens. And enough so-called "good cops" choose to do nothing (except to tell themselves they're still the "good guys," for whatever reason). So it goes.
drbrumley
Well-known member
So, you weren't serious?
And your plain and simply wrong. So we can not talk past each other, what is your definition of a police state?
glorydaz
Well-known member
About Gunsmoke? No, I was not serious. I know Dodge City was not as it was portrayed in the tv show. :chuckle:
I'm assuming it's what's being portrayed on threads like this, and that's what I'm finding so far fetched. What I'm seeing is nothing more than fear mongering not based on facts at all.
Pfffftttt ... no, I am taking the side of *common sense*. Unlike you. Simply showing a license and registration is an act of nonaggression that would have most likely ended in kid receiving a lecture or warning ticket.
gcthomas
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"Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before you reach eighteen." Attributed to*Albert Einstein
You are right that complete compliance would have smoothed things. But the kid did not start the aggression; his behaviour was polite passive non-compliance in the video clip. The cop started getting angry and initiated the aggression in order to bully the kid into grovelling compliance. The kid acted wrongly, but for non-violent non-compliance to result in seven (!) bullets in his corpse suggests that common sense escaped the cop as he escalated the situation in anger.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
which is a violation of the law and justification for the officer to arrest him
i'm fascinated why you continually misrepresent the situation
do you think you're fooling anybody?
why do you keep ignoring the fact that the kid assaulted the officer?
(which, btw, really doesn't meet the definition of "non-violent non-compliance")
brinny
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gcthomas
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The kid, from what the video shows, was compliant in lying prone, and the cop kicked the phone then tasered him to force compliance. The taser was not used in defence. Even if the assault was justified by the passive non-compliance, it was certainly the cop who escalated the stop to violence.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
the officer, in the hospital, after the shooting:
the kid resisted arrest, the officer tried to use his non-lethal weapon, the taser, it failed, the kid got on top of him whaling on his face, so the officer shot him
the story gcthomas is trying to sell is: the kid refused, politely, to produce his license and registration, so the officer executed him at roadside
the kid resisted arrest, the officer tried to use his non-lethal weapon, the taser, it failed, the kid got on top of him whaling on his face, so the officer shot him
the story gcthomas is trying to sell is: the kid refused, politely, to produce his license and registration, so the officer executed him at roadside
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
didn't kick
watch the video
he leans over, holding the taser in his right hand, reaches down with his left, takes the phone out of the kid's hand and tosses it
that's when the kid starts struggling
right, because the kid was struggling
it's hard to get the cuffs on when they're struggling
not defense, no
to control the situation and get the cuffs on
:doh:
you're a retard
brinny
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the officer, in the hospital, after the shooting:
the kid resisted arrest, the officer tried to use his non-lethal weapon, the taser, it failed, the kid got on top of him whaling on his face, so the officer shot him
the story gcthomas is trying to sell is: the kid refused, politely, to produce his license and registration, so the officer executed him at roadside
THIS is the officer? Really?
How did he get like that?
Apparently i missed something.
Where does it give an account of how this officer got this way?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
gcthomas
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brinny
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Did you get all the information you posted from the video?