17 Year Old Shot And Killed By Cop

ok doser

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and nobody been able to explain this:

how do you give yourself a black eye?

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brinny

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Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
on the other hand, if I'm frost and I shoot the kid dead for reasons that might not be appropriate and realize I'm in a world of trouble, and I realize my body cam's off and I'm out of the line of sight of my dashcam, if I'm a quick thinker I slam my face into the pavement a couple times real quick and claim he attacked me

This is what i thought when i saw the picture of the officer.
 

brinny

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and nobody been able to explain this:

how do you give yourself a black eye?

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Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
on the other hand, if I'm frost and I shoot the kid dead for reasons that might not be appropriate and realize I'm in a world of trouble, and I realize my body cam's off and I'm out of the line of sight of my dashcam, if I'm a quick thinker I slam my face into the pavement a couple times real quick and claim he attacked me
 

brinny

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Originally Posted by brinny View Post
Did you get all the information you posted from the video?

the video is unclear - it does appear to show guilford rising after the taser fails

Then where did you get the information?

and where in the video does it show the 17 yr old rising after being tased?

(and seriously...wasn't he tased multiple times, and one o' those zaps was kinda' extended, wasn't it? And who "rises" after being tased at all?)
 

bybee

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Then where did you get the information?

and where in the video does it show the 17 yr old rising after being tased?

(and seriously...wasn't he tased multiple times, and one o' those zaps was kinda' extended, wasn't it? And who "rises" after being tased at all?)

I have a nephew who gives classes on the use of Tasers. He has stated that some persons keep right on coming even after being tased.
 

bybee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
on the other hand, if I'm frost and I shoot the kid dead for reasons that might not be appropriate and realize I'm in a world of trouble, and I realize my body cam's off and I'm out of the line of sight of my dashcam, if I'm a quick thinker I slam my face into the pavement a couple times real quick and claim he attacked me

Would you work this hard and fabricate this elaborately to defend a police officer?
Perhaps there are Thugs for hire in your area and you can call on them to defend you in time of need?
 

Granite

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I have a nephew who gives classes on the use of Tasers. He has stated that some persons keep right on coming even after being tased.

Makes you wonder why departments keep insisting on paying for and using them.
 

ok doser

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Then where did you get the information?

there's a link in that post

and where in the video does it show the 17 yr old rising after being tased?

5:28 he's off the ground and swinging

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(and seriously...wasn't he tased multiple times, and one o' those zaps was kinda' extended, wasn't it? And who "rises" after being tased at all?)

from what i've read, he fired the taser once (one with the darts and wires, not a handheld) and it was "too close" to be effective
 

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Makes you wonder why departments keep insisting on paying for and using them.

Tasers are torture devices. From Wiki:
Tasers rely on pain compliance, especially when used in "Drive Stun" mode, and are thus preferred by some law enforcement over non-Taser stun guns and other electronic control weapons.​
They can inflict a lot of pain without doing lasting harm--except in those cases where they do cause lasting harm, or death.
 

patrick jane

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I do have to say that even though I believe the officer could have done many things to avoid the escalation and to calm the situation, that at the point of rising and striking the officer the kid should have known he could be killed. Nobody can resist cuffs and then turn and attack a cop and come out ok.

So, my final stance is the cop could have not kicked the phone and prevented the struggle, but the shooting is justified and expected because of the punk's attack.
 

ok doser

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Tasers are torture devices. From Wiki:
Tasers rely on pain compliance, especially when used in "Drive Stun" mode, and are thus preferred by some law enforcement over non-Taser stun guns and other electronic control weapons.​
They can inflict a lot of pain without doing lasting harm--except in those cases where they do cause lasting harm, or death.


ahh, for the good old days when cops carried nightsticks and all you had to deal with was cracked skulls and concussions

no wait - tasers were introduced to be a more humane non-lethal weapon than nightsticks

never mind
 

TomO

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ahh, for the good old days when cops carried nightsticks and all you had to deal with was cracked skulls and concussions

no wait - tasers were introduced to be a more humane non-lethal weapon than nightsticks

never mind

Pepper Spray too. :plain:

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ok doser

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didja see this?

A California town of about 10,000 people has authorized giving its 20 police officers nunchucks in an effort to limit injuries to police officers and the people they’re arresting. “It gives us the ability to control a suspect instead of striking them,” an official said. Training manuals for the tools show police using them to subdue suspects—even though Bruce Lee martial-arts flicks popularized them as weapons.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/10/27/california-town-gives-cops-nunchucks.html


i have a mental image of a bunch of fat old cops knocking themselves out practicing :chuckle:
 

brinny

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there's a link in that post



5:28 he's off the ground and swinging

...




from what i've read, he fired the taser once (one with the darts and wires, not a handheld) and it was "too close" to be effective

i watched 5:28...Where does it show this boy off the ground and swinging?

The boy was crying out in pain. The taser got him at least once, and there was an extended tasing at the least.

Is there any information on this boy's autopsy?
 

ok doser

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i can't do a screen capture on this - play the youtube and pause it frequently through 5:26 - 5:30
 
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