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Originally posted by ilyatur
I'm new here, and I wonder what Zakath's worldview is, beyond his criticism of the Christian worldview.
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Originally posted by ilyatur
I'm new here, and I wonder what Zakath's worldview is, beyond his criticism of the Christian worldview.
atheist - noun. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods
OK, then does Zakath claim to be an atheist of the atheist position (One who ... denies the existence of God or gods) or an atheist of the agnostic position (One who disbelieves ... the existence of God or gods).Of the two you presented, only one is an atheist position. The latter is an agnostic position, not atheist.
I need to know if you only disbelieve God's existence thus far because of insufficient evidence to support it, or if you go as far as denying God's existence regardless of future evidence.What more statement of my position do you need?
You may have been saying this to be funny or to rattle Zakath's cage, but the Bible says you're absolutely right. So-called atheists are really "theists in denial." Everyone knows the truth but suppresses in unrighteousness, according to Romans 1. The Greek term for "ignorance" is actually "willful ignorance," that is, knowing enough truth to push it away from oneself. Great comment, Z Man.Zakath believes in God; he's just too mad at Him to admit it ...
Actually, Zakath and I go back....way back. Like, a couple hundred posts back.Originally posted by Hilston
Z Man writes:
You may have been saying this to be funny or to rattle Zakath's cage...Zakath believes in God; he's just too mad at Him to admit it ...
Thanks, I guess... But I think that comment is what is sad about Zakath's personal life. Just like the famous atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair said countless times in her diary, I believe Zakath is shouting in his heart:Great comment, Z Man.
Jim
Originally posted by philosophizer
Why are there people posting in the battle thread itself? It's so annoying. How many times does Knight have to say don't post there?
Ooo, that last post was a long one too. :bang:
Originally posted by Z Man
Zakath believes in God; he's just too mad at Him to admit it....
My screen name, Zakath, is a character found in a couple of books by David Eddings. Zakath happens to be the emperor of Mallorea (an empire on another world in Edding's novels) and an atheist who is married to an oracle (one who hears from deities). The situation reminded me a bit of my wife and me, hence the name...Originally posted by Brenda
Forgive my ignorance, but what is "Mallorean"?
I do.Originally posted by Hilston
Hi Erieann,
Do you know the answer to my question?
To you, Jay? All I have to say isOriginally posted by Freak
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Zakath, you could easily embrace God now and all this could be for not. What do you say?
PM me and I'll discuss it with you if you wish.Originally posted by ilyatur
I'm new here, and I wonder what Zakath's worldview is, beyond his criticism of the Christian worldview.
Actually, it was a very good way to start the debate. Establishing a working definition that is fully understood by both parties is an essential beginning to a debate. If there is not a concise and mutually agreed-upon definition for "God," then the debate is sunk from the first post. Otherwise, both parties can argue in favor or against the existence of God -- by their individual definitions -- and never gain ground on the other because the other is debating something completely different.Originally posted by RogerB
Did anyone really expect aomething different from Zak's first post? Next he's going to ask for flesh and blood, gotta see it with my own two eyes proof. As if man can even begin to define God in terms we understand or limit His existence to what we will accept as logical.
Originally posted by Eireann
The only thing he accomplished, though, was failing to prove the negative (as was his intent). Unfortunately, failing to disprove a negative does not prove a positive, which is something Kant didn't quite get. In the end, he only managed to prove that he couldn't prove God doesn't exist, but he was no closer to being able to prove he does.
Originally posted by Zakath
PM me and I'll discuss it with you if you wish.
Only Zak truly knows the answer to that question. I can assume, from his background and most of what he's posted in the past that he is a true atheist, assuming he is truthful about his lack of belief.Originally posted by Hilston
Hi Erieann,
Do you know the answer to my question?
Originally posted by Zakath
BTW, it's "Zay-kath". Long "a" and accent on the first syllable, short "a" in the second. It's a common error since Mallorean is quite a bit different than English...