Biden: To hell with God and the Church. I'm taking communion.

marke

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The MI Republican senate chairman and Republican-majority investigation found no evidence of fraud and came out with a strong condemnatory statement regarding those who were propagating claims of fraud and "outright lies meant to create doubt and confusion."

If you're not going to believe the party of Trump, who you gonna believe?
I don't believe the conclusions drawn by the Michigan lawmakers. Their report lists their reasoning for why they rejected common-sense objections to more than a dozen errors that were made during the 2020 election. What is wrong with Michigan lawmakers who go to the trouble to detail why they think every error made was not fraud and then side with the democrats who dishonestly claim the 2020 election was the safest, most accurate, and least problematic election in US history?
 

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1. Not in many countries/cultures. In many cases what carried the day was reason and good will, as it did in the northern States, as it did in England and France.
2. Not in many countries/cultures. Slavery still exists.
Yes the American South had an economy that to many planters was largely based on slavery, they were unique among what are now known as developed countries. And along with slavery, racism still exists today as well, in many countries, but not in the US. And what I mean by that, is that we don't have any racist laws anymore, we don't have institutionalized racism here anymore. There are individual violent criminals who will say anything when they're discovered, including racist and sexist and homophobic things, and any other thing that enters their crooked mind to say (Mommy didn't love me!), and instead of noting it's a violent criminal uttering such things, they instead focus on the nature of what they're saying, and say we have a racist /sexist /homophobic problem in the US, instead of rightly saying, that we have a violent crime problem.
3. Ultimately the development of the internal combustion engine would have made slavery unprofitable as a Southern US institution. If the Civil War hadn't happened, slavery would have been gone within 60 years
Isn't that highly speculative?
 

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If Oreos came with white cream on the outside and black crust on the inside the Priest could give Biden one of those. They would be perfect for him.m
I don't know of any restriction on what the host can be. As long as it can be called bread, which I believe just means, made with a flour from a grain, and baked. So, Oreos, Cheezit, Triscuit, they could be the host. It's the consecration that's sacramental, not the particular type of 'bread'.
 

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So says everyone.

Perhaps you could actually stick to the context of these things instead of cherry-picking and trying to force your meaning on them.

No, he didn't.

You, again, mischaracterize what I said.

God never gave any "priesthood" a celibacy requirement. That is your RCC mispresenting God.
God gave the Apostles the authority to give the bishops the authority to impose a celibacy requirement upon future priests and bishops. Their duty is to preserve and transmit the teachings of the Apostles, and to administrate the Church's institutions, that were established by Christ and by the Apostles.
The only priesthood that God ever created was the one in and for the nation of Israel.
What is the priesthood of Melchizedek? Did God not create that?
Peter, your supposed first Pope, was a married man. Why would his supposed successors be required not to marry?
Because they could afford to put into practice Paul's Apostolic counsel:
He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
It may be that soon, the Church will no longer be able to afford to impose this requirement upon future priests, that is up to the bishops to decide. And if they do change this discipline, they are only validly exercising their authority, which is what they're already doing in imposing the celibacy requirement.
 

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Biden is one of the elite. He does as he pleases and no God, church leader, or American law is going to stop him.
If God doesn't like the fact that Joe Biden takes communion, God will judge him himself. It's not up to you:

1 Corinthians 11

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
 

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God gave the Apostles the authority to give the bishops the authority to impose a celibacy requirement upon future priests and bishops.
You keep using the generic term "the Apostles". By that I can only assume that you mean the 12 apostles that will sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of ISRAEL. They have no authority at the present time. OUR apostle (for the body of Christ) is Paul.
Their duty is to preserve and transmit the teachings of the Apostles, and to administrate the Church's institutions, that were established by Christ and by the Apostles.
Again, 12 apostles that will sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of ISRAEL.
What is the priesthood of Melchizedek? Did God not create that?
Fair enough... but there is NO priesthood in the body of Christ. So your RCC fixation on a "priesthood" is bogus and not from God.
Because they could afford to put into practice Paul's Apostolic counsel:
It may be that soon, the Church will no longer be able to afford to impose this requirement upon future priests, that is up to the bishops to decide. And if they do change this discipline, they are only validly exercising their authority, which is what they're already doing in imposing the celibacy requirement.
RCC tradition and not correct.
 

marke

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If God doesn't like the fact that Joe Biden takes communion, God will judge him himself. It's not up to you:

1 Corinthians 11

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
Of course. God will judge.
 

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I don't know of any restriction on what the host can be. As long as it can be called bread, which I believe just means, made with a flour from a grain, and baked. So, Oreos, Cheezit, Triscuit, they could be the host. It's the consecration that's sacramental, not the particular type of 'bread'.

Sorry, but that's wrong. There is an absolute restriction on what the host can be made of. Wheat flour and water only. Nothing else.

Redemptionis Sacramentum.
 

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Sorry, but that's wrong. There is an absolute restriction on what the host can be made of. Wheat flour and water only. Nothing else.

Redemptionis Sacramentum.
Is that in the Catechism or is it canon law or something? My priest said that he knew of some parishes who baked their own bread for the host, but didn't mention anything about how it had to be just wheat flour and water. He said it didn't even have to be unleavened. Perhaps he was leading us astray. :) Or perhaps I forgot something. . . .
 

annabenedetti

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Is that in the Catechism or is it canon law or something? My priest said that he knew of some parishes who baked their own bread for the host, but didn't mention anything about how it had to be just wheat flour and water. He said it didn't even have to be unleavened. Perhaps he was leading us astray. :) Or perhaps I forgot something. . . .

Redemptionis Sacramentrum is from 2004, which has footnotes to canon law and another instruction from 1929. Also there's the Pius V papal bull from the Council of Trent (mid-16th. century) , I don't have anything farther back than that to give you at the moment.


CONGREGATION FOR DIVINE WORSHIP
AND THE DISCIPLINE OF THE SACRAMENT

INSTRUCTION

Redemptionis Sacramentum

On certain matters to be observed or to be avoided
regarding the Most Holy Eucharist




1. The Matter of the Most Holy Eucharist

[48.] The bread used in the celebration of the Most Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice must be unleavened, purely of wheat, and recently made so that there is no danger of decomposition.[123] It follows therefore that bread made from another substance, even if it is grain, or if it is mixed with another substance different from wheat to such an extent that it would not commonly be considered wheat bread, does not constitute valid matter for confecting the Sacrifice and the Eucharistic Sacrament.[124] It is a grave abuse to introduce other substances, such as fruit or sugar or honey, into the bread for confecting the Eucharist. Hosts should obviously be made by those who are not only distinguished by their integrity, but also skilled in making them and furnished with suitable tools.[125]
 

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God gave the Apostles the authority to give the bishops the authority to impose a celibacy requirement upon future priests and bishops.

Where? Because as far as I can tell, Paul said that those who impose such things have "departed from the faith."

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving;for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. - 1 Timothy 4:1-5 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Timothy4:1-5&version=NKJV

And no, Matthew 18:18 doesn't count, because that was only for the New Covenant God made explicitly with Israel.

Their duty is to preserve and transmit the teachings of the Apostles,

Such as 1 Timothy 4:1-5, no less...

and to administrate the Church's institutions, that were established by Christ and by the Apostles.

Which do not include forbidding to marry, aka, "departing from the faith."

What is the priesthood of Melchizedek? Did God not create that?

An unanswerable question. God doesn't tell us. Probably not, though.

Because they could afford to put into practice Paul's Apostolic counsel:

Which does not include "forbidding to marry."

It may be that soon, the Church will no longer be able to afford to impose this requirement upon future priests, that is up to the bishops to decide.

It wasn't up to them to begin with, nor to the authorities within the church.

And if they do change this discipline, they are only validly exercising their authority,

Wrong. They would be (unwittingly) correcting a mistake that had been made by those in authority so long ago.

which is what they're already doing in imposing the celibacy requirement.

Wrong. Such is, as Paul puts it, a "depart[ing] from the faith."
 

marke

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Biden is one of the elite. He does as he pleases and no God, church leader, or American law is going to stop him.

Joe Biden defied the nation’s Catholic bishops this weekend by attending Mass just two days after they voted for a new document on communion that could be used to rebuke pro-abortion politicians like him.
After the bishops overwhelming voted for the document and despite numerous bishops speaking up about the importance of the Catholic Church’s opposition to killing babies in abortion, the supposedly “faithful Catholic” went to mass anyway.
Biden defies God on abortion because Biden is of the devil and the devil moves people to kill babies because of stupid, irrational, leftist fears that humans are going to overpopulate the earth resulting in the annihilation of life. These morons are an easy mark for the devil because they do not trust God to keep things under control and think killing babies is the human solution to yet another threat they think they can solve.

Biden has appointed yet another Marxist idiot who thinks babies are an environmental hazard. It does not get much stupider than that.

As first reported on by the Daily Caller, in Stone-Manning’s thesis, she crafted eight commercials to “tug at the root of many of our environmental horrors, overpopulation.”
One of the ads she proposed depicted an American baby as an “environmental hazard.”
“We breed more than any industrialized nation,” the ad stated. “…On average, each of us gobbles the same energy as 3 Japanese, 13 Chinese, and 499 Ethiopians…When we overpopulate, the earth notices it more. Stop at two. It could be the best thing you do for the planet.”
 

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The Catholic Church's position on abortion is crystal clear.
Why hasn't the Catholic Church excommunicated this evil evil man?

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The Catholic Church's position on abortion is crystal clear.
Why hasn't the Catholic Church excommunicated this evil evil man?

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Maybe it's the prestige of having a "Catholic" president.
 
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