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Others have the reverse experience of Davis going from atheist to young earth Geologist.
One thing almost for certain in the people like Davis, is that they never received good teaching or answers connecting Genesis to the Gospel.
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Others have the reverse experience of Davis going from atheist to young earth Geologist.
One thing almost for certain in the people like Davis, is that they never received good teaching or answers connecting Genesis to the Gospel.
Silent Hunter
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Significantly fewer but it does happen.
Connecting Genesis to the Gospel? Yeah, that's probably a whole lot easier than connecting creationism to actual science. It works something like, 1+2+3+4+(a miracle)=100.
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Richard Dawkins cites the case of 'leading' creationist Kurt Wise who acknowledges that the evidence of geology, in which he has a doctorate, contradicts the biblical narrative almost completely. Yet he has decided to follow scripture not evidence. I think this quote sums up the basis of his 'science':
'My understanding from Scripture is that the universe is in the order of 6,000 years old. Once that has been determined by Scripture, it is a starting point that we build theories upon. It is within those boundaries that we can construct new theories'
Wise is unashamed about tying YEC (not sure about flood mythology) to christianity. His life's work is to reconcile the two.
Surely the only reasonable conclusion he could draw is that the whole observable universe is a god-generated illusion.
Stuart
Again? :doh:
If he said all that energy was released as heat, you should have provided that quote immediately when I challenged you on your error.
Repeating the same error just shows how utterly out of your depth you are. You don't get points for being able to add when you cannot grasp the fundamentals of physics.
Silent Hunter
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And yet you're completely unable to direct anyone to exactly what that error is beyond, "Evolutionists hate reading" and :mock: evolutionists or any of a number of your pat replies.
It's interesting that my inability to "grasp the fundamentals of physics" hasn't impaired my career as an engineer. That you can't comprehend the amount of energy being discussed greatly exceeds that of a stretched rubber band is revealing of YOUR "inability to grasp the fundamentals of physics". 1x10^28J is, in the language of a local car dealership, "HUGE!!".
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Jose Fly
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Again, here is what I said...
Pay attention...it's not my theory, it's yours. And that forming entire mountain ranges in a single year or less requires so much energy that it would boil off the oceans doesn't come from me, it comes from your fellow creationists, i.e., John Baumgardner who estimated 1028 joules of energy would be released under this scenario. That's more than enough to turn the entire planet into a steam cooker.
Don't blame me if you can't read.
Silent Hunter
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Silent Hunter
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Yeah, that's probably a whole lot easier than connecting creationism to actual science. It works something like, 1+2+3+4+(a miracle)=100. :nono:
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Repeating your error doesn't help.
When energy is released, that does not mean it has to go toward boiling oceans.
Jose Fly
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Then where did it go Stripe?
Silent Hunter
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You just refuse to understand the concept.
We're not stretching rubber bands here. 1x10^28J of heat is more than THREE TIMES what is needed to BOIL ALL of the water in ALL of the oceans on Earth.
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Silent Hunter
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And boiling ALL of the water isn't necessary to spoil Baumgardner's "theory".
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On pages 284-286 of The God Delusion Dawkins discusses Kurt Wise in some detail, and takes some pity on the situation into which he has forced himself.
Like the problem of evil and other such nonsense, Wise's issues only exist because christianity exists. The mythology of the ancient Jews has been a blight on humanity. Had christianity never been invented, Wise might have made a significant contribution to his field of human endeavour. As it is, he has wasted his brief time on the planet with fantasy conspiracy theories. And they are not even theories, and he has said exactly that himself.
Stuart
Refusing to understand your error doesn't help either.
You just refuse to understand the concept. There is energy made available; it is wrong to declare that this must go toward boiling oceans.
It's like saying the sun is so hot that the oceans must be all gone.
So what?
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