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like marbles on glass
Alright, perhaps I overstated my case, depending on how you took my above statement. However, this does not mean that abortion is the only solution.
1. The claim that termination of an ectopic pregnancy is necessary to save the life of the mother
a. The actual danger that an ectopic pregnancy poses to the mother is that of a tubal rupture or some other kind of hemorrhage which could cause the mother to lose a vital amount of blood.
b. Treatment with autotransfusion instead of abortion has a success rate of 99.84%.
In 1914, a doctor in Germany reported success in using autotransfusion to treat ruptured ectopic pregnancies.[1] Autotransfusion involves siphoning the blood which has spilled into the abdominal cavity, running it through a filter and then pumping it back into the mother’s body. In 2002, a worldwide study of 632 ruptured ectopic pregnancies treated with autotransfusion reported only a single instance of death.[2] That’s a success rate of 99.84%.
c. Based on calculations of ectopic pregnancies in Israel, the lowest possible survival rate for women who do not terminate their ectopic pregnancies prior to rupture or delivery is 88%.
The entire southern region of Israel only saw 13 pregnancy related deaths over a 23 year period extending from 1969 to 1991. [3] This comes to an average of .57 deaths per year. In 1992, the Soroka University Hospital in Be’er Sheva reported on 148 ruptured ectopic pregnancies.[4] The report does not provide a range of dates in which these ruptures occurred, but we know that Soroka University Hospital was established in 1960, so we can safely conclude that the 148 ruptured ectopic pregnancies reported by that hospital occurred within a 31 year time period at an average of 4.8 per year. If we assume that every single pregnancy related death in southern Israel was one of these 148 women with ruptured ectopic pregnancies, then we can calculate that a maximum of 12% of ruptured tubal pregnancies result in the death of the mother. Of course, it is highly unlikely that every single pregnancy related death over a period of 23 years was the result of an ectopic pregnancy, and it is equally unlikely that every single one of those deaths occurred at Soroka University Hospital, so that 12% figure must be unrealistically high. Nevertheless, we can safely conclude that women in the southern region of Israel have a greater than 88% chance of surviving a ruptured ectopic pregnancy.
d. The actual survival rate is more likely to be 99.4%.
A more accurate percentage could be obtained by considering that deaths associated with ectopic pregnancies only make up about 6% of the yearly maternal deaths in America.[5] If this figure were to be applied to the maternal mortality rate of southern Israel, we would derive that there were .03 ectopic related deaths per year for that region. When that figure is divided by an average of 4.8 tubal ruptures per year, we arrive at the conclusion that a woman in southern Israel has a 99.4% chance of surviving an ectopic pregnancy which is not aborted prior to rupture.
e. A similar calculation for America produces a lowest possible minimum of 97.7% survival.
In addition, we could calculate the maternal risk from the total number of heterotopic pregnancies (twins with one child in the womb and the other being ectopic) in America. According to Dr. Tenore of the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, this type of pregnancy occurs in 1 out of every 2,600 pregnancies, and 50% of them (1 out of every 5,200 pregnancies) "are identified only after tubal rupture."[6] According to the American Pregnancy Association, there are approximately 6 million pregnancies per year in the US.[7] Therefore, there are an average of 1,154 heterotopic pregnancies every year in America which are not even discovered much less treated prior to tubal rupture. The CDC reported that there are an average of 26.3 maternal deaths per year that are ectopic related.[8] If we assumed that all of these ectopic related deaths were the result of an undiagnosed heterotopic pregnancy (a condition which only makes up 1% of the total number of ectopic pregnancies), then we would still arrive at a maternal survival rate of 97.7%.
2. The claim that an unborn child cannot survive an ectopic pregnancy
a. Between 1809 and 1935, there were 316 reported live births from ectopic pregnancies.
Two OBGYNs in New York, Dr.’s Hellman and Simon, published details on 316 ectopic pregnancies which resulted in live births between 1809 and 1935.[9] Only half of these children survived their first week of life, but these births occurred before the development of the first neonatal intensive care unit, and most of them before the discovery of penicillin in 1928. With modern technology, it is likely that many more would have survived.
b. With modern technology, there have been even more of these births in recent years in spite of the insistence that abortion is the only viable treatment.
In September of 1999, Ronan Ingram was successfully delivered via c-section. Ronan had implanted in one of his mother’s fallopian tubes which subsequently ruptured as he grew into the abdominal cavity.[10] In May of 2008, Durga Thangarajah was born after spending a full nine months in her mother’s ovary.[11] Sage Dalton was born in July of 1999 after developing in the amniotic membrane outside her mother’s womb.[12] Billy Jones was born in 2008 after developing in his mother’s abdominal cavity.[13] Many additional reports could be given.[14] [15] [16] [17] [18]
3. The claim that termination is the only treatment for ectopic pregnancies that is recognized by the medical profession
- Many OBGYNs have recommended allowing ectopic pregnancies to resolve on their own.
Dr.’s Sapuri and Klufio, for example, have recommended that women discovered to have an ectopic pregnancy prior to 28 weeks of gestation should be admitted to a hospital and closely monitored. They stress that blood transfusion facilities should be readily available in case of hemorrhage, and they suggest that once the child has reached 28 weeks of gestation, he should be delivered surgically.[19]
Links to the references denoted by numbers in brackets can be found here at the bottom of the page:
Fact Sheet on Ectopic Pregnancy
Documented refutations of the three big lies about ectopic pregnancywww.personhoodinitiative.com
The first part of your list concerns maternal mortality rate, not fetal mortality rate (using the scientific term for a scientific discussion).
The latter part of your list, here:
doesn't list a single instance where the fetus developed in the fallopian tube, where 98% of ectopic pregnancies develop.
So I don't think that changes anything, and will refer back to the question in my previous post.
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