I'm Starting To Like This Trump Fellow

[Idolater]

Well I judge it as disgustingly racist but I'm willing to accept that there is a range of degrees of racism (or not) on TOL. Some might say it's not racist, some might say it's racist but within allowable limits, some might say it's racist but probably questionable whether they'd bring it up around the dinner table, some might say it's disgustingly racist.

And some might say it's only retards who think it's actually racist.

 

[Idolater]

OK I find myself in agreement with you. Those who think it's racist will find it racist. Those who erroneously don't think it's racist will find it's not racist.

This actually represents progress, if we can stick to it. Can you?

 

[Idolater]

Surprisingly enough there is a definition for the word racism, as for many other words. Racism is a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. That's from Miriam-Webster.
TBH, I believe that all of us, deep inside somewhere, harbour instincts of racism, to a greater or lesser degree. After hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, this could be expected due to natural selection. Trusting the safety of your own tribe, fearing or hating outsiders who pose a risk to safety. Makes perfect sense. But nowadays, we need to overcome such base instincts, knowing that all men are created equal. We need to learn to love our neighbour.

Retarded.

 

[Idolater]

Of course not. It's perfectly normal and acceptable to support and help your family as you can. That's not the same as discriminating against an entire group because they're a different colour. Can you see that?

That's not at all what I said. It's not something to be figured out. My thought is that it is an inborn condition that we are all afflicted with to one extent or another due to eons of evolutionary selection.

I was going to say 'no' but after considering your query I don't know. If all men are equally capable of heinous sins, that would mean your relatives are just as capable as non-relatives of committing heinous sins. Personally I wouldn't trust them. Keep your relatives away from me please.

There are seeds of cleverness in you. But they were [sown] on the gravel and the retarded birds have come to eat them up.

 

[Idolater]

Well I guess we've pretty much flogged this to death so we'll need to simply agree to disagree on this. I believe the age old American tradition of portraying Blacks as simians is racist and you don't. Thanks for engaging. And you didn't once

call me a tard

, which was refreshing.

 

[Idolater]

Notice how much actual common sense 'commonsense' has! When confronted with facts, he excuses himself instead of moving an inch off his stance.

I laugh anytime someone on the left cries crocodile tears about racism while doing every single thing that they can think to do to keep race alive and well as an issue in this society. They simply cannot do the one thing that would end racism and that is to stop pointing out everyone's race. If it is treated as a non-issue, it will become a non-issue, as was in fact happening in full view of everyone in this country until Barack Obama showed up to stir the pot and get racism back on the hot list of social topics.

The only solution to racism is to stop talking about people's race. It is the ONLY solution and it WILL work, which is why the left will never stop talking about it.

President Obama's election proved America wasn't racist. His subsequent reelection sealed it. We are NOT racists. There's no further discussion here except for retards.

 

[Idolater]

He isn't mistaken, he is lying and knows that we know.

You give him too much credit. He's a retard. TOL for him is but a dalliance. So he's a dalliance therefore for TOL too.

 

[Idolater]

I excused myself because it was clear we weren't going to make much progress, that's all. Your nonsensical contributions above don't motivate me to respond.

What a loss! That a flaming retard isn't going to contribute to the discussion!

 

[Idolater]

What do you define as "progress"? That I'll start agreeing with you? Why is that the only progress you'll accept? Focusing for a moment on the appendix again, you were actually speaking an untruth about it. I countered with conflicting evidence. Who should be agreeing with whom on that count? If i were to agree with you, I would be giving up truth for a lie. Since you compared that to racism, are you wanting me to believe a lie about that, too?

ofc. Coz he's not thinking. He doesn't care. TOL is a dalliance. He's probably bored in his life, bored in his marriage and family, bored in his career, bored in his existence. He comes to TOL for some fun. He's a retard.

 

[commonsense]

What do you define as "progress"? That I'll start agreeing with you? Why is that the only progress you'll accept? Focusing for a moment on the appendix again, you were actually speaking an untruth about it. I countered with conflicting evidence. Who should be agreeing with whom on that count? If i were to agree with you, I would be giving up truth for a lie. Since you compared that to racism, are you wanting me to believe a lie about that, too?

Well I just don't want to spend a bunch of time going over the same things over and over. I presented my viewpoint on the subject for people to consider and so did you. And that's that.
As far as my passing mention of the appendix, I appreciate you bringing me up to speed about new science on it. I was unaware. But...that doesn't affect the core disagreement that the portrayal of Blacks as apes is racist.

 

[commonsense]

Those who are not retarded.

Even Trump eventually realized that there was significant pushback to the video and deleted it. Of course he tried to pin the blame for the flub on some nameless "staffer." Now there's a liar!

 

[Derf]

Well I just don't want to spend a bunch of time going over the same things over and over. I presented my viewpoint on the subject for people to consider and so did you. And that's that.
As far as my passing mention of the appendix, I appreciate you bringing me up to speed about new science on it. I was unaware.

I appreciate that. But what does it say about your education, which teaches that we evolved from lesser creatures?

But...that doesn't affect the core disagreement that the portrayal of Blacks as apes is racist.

Nobody presented blacks as apes. Somebody presented the Obamas as apes, along with Joe Biden, if I understand correctly. But why is the portrayal of blacks as apes considered racist? Isn't it because of the evolutionary mindset that says we came from apes, and that blacks haven't progressed as far as the rest of us? Your racism is built into our education system. For it to come out at this point is hardly a surprise. But it is coming out in the reaction to the video, not from the video itself.

 

[Idolater]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2021206671440084996

 

[Clete]

I excused myself because it was clear we weren't going to make much progress, that's all.

The lack of progress is on you, bub! You're the one ignoring factual information that falsifies you lunatic political views.

Your nonsensical contributions above don't motivate me to respond.

What a buffoonish clown you are. You do understand that the entire thread is all still right here for the entire world to read, right?

 

[Nick M]

The left does not view this as racist. Only if you do it to a black American. Does the left want to answer why? You know (all 3 of you) I will say whether you do or not.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2020997751467659354

Your liberal white guilt (unless you aren't white, it is just guilt) view black people as less than human. And in your gut the monkey is equated to black people, that is why you have a problem with it, but not George W Bush. Because you equate those of African descent with monkeys. I don't need a research paper.