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Clete

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Right Divider said:
Science is not about a battle of opinions, current or otherwise.

The "scientific method" is not based on a materialist world view.

The scientific method cannot prove unobserved supposed events, especially those related to the origin of all things.
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Indeed! The fact that the scientific method - that is the ACTUAL scientific method - works at all, turns out to be proof that the materialist worldview is self defeating by its own terms and therefore MUST be false...

If materialism is true, then all our thoughts are the result of nonrational physical causes.
If all our thoughts are the result of nonrational physical causes, then we have no reason to trust them as rationally true.
Therefore, if materialism is true, we have no reason to believe it is true.

In short: Materialism undercuts the rational basis required to affirm materialism.

QED

For the materialist, declaring anything to be true or false, the very act of affirming any knowledge at all, is the act that undermines his own worldview.
 
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Clete said:
Indeed! The fact that the scientific method - that is the ACTUAL scientific method - works at all, turns out to be proof that the materialist worldview is self defeating by its own terms and therefore MUST be false...

If materialism is true, then all our thoughts are the result of nonrational physical causes.
If all our thoughts are the result of nonrational physical causes, then we have no reason to trust them as rationally true.
Therefore, if materialism is true, we have no reason to believe it is true.

In short: Materialism undercuts the rational basis required to affirm materialism.

QED

For the materialist, declaring anything to be true or false, the very act of affirming any knowledge at all, is the act that undermines his own worldview.
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Materialism is such a totally bankrupt philosophy.

How does a materialist have ANY moral framework at all? They can't.
 
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Right Divider said:
Science is not about a battle of opinions, current or otherwise.
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The scientific method is a systematic process used to explore and understand phenomena through observation, experimentation, and evidence-based reasoning. It typically involves several key steps: defining questions, forming hypotheses, conducting experiments, and analyzing data. This method aims to minimize errors and biases, enhancing the reliability of scientific inquiry. Overall, it serves as a logical framework for scientists to ask questions, develop explanations, and test ideas.
Right Divider said:
The "scientific method" is not based on a materialist world view.
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OK sure. I suppose some scientists could be materialists and others not. So what? If the scientific consensus is that the appendix has certain functions that were previously unknown, shows science works.
Right Divider said:
The scientific method cannot prove unobserved supposed events, especially those related to the origin of all things.
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Right... cannot prove, yet. But science can lead to hypotheses that based on observable data have wider acceptance than other hypotheses.
 
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Clete said:
For the materialist, declaring anything to be true or false, the very act of affirming any knowledge at all, is the act that undermines his own worldview.
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You may or may not be correct. My question to you is, who are you trying to convince? I'm not a materialist.
 
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Is the chimp graphic with the former President offensive to anyone? Why or why not.
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From all the controversy the graphic has produced, I would say that yes, some people found it offensive. Why? Historically this trope has been used to dehumanize an identifiable group of people. For Trump this is not uncommon. He's referred to Haitians as garbage, claims they're eating peoples cats and dogs. Would you say Trump was correct in these claims?
Immigrants and refugees are criminals, rapists, and insane asylum escapees. It's humorous how, because they frequently claim asylum, in his brain, such as it is, he thinks they came from asylums. 25th amendment anyone?
 
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commonsense said:
The scientific method is a systematic process used to explore and understand phenomena through observation, experimentation, and evidence-based reasoning. It typically involves several key steps: defining questions, forming hypotheses, conducting experiments, and analyzing data. This method aims to minimize errors and biases, enhancing the reliability of scientific inquiry. Overall, it serves as a logical framework for scientists to ask questions, develop explanations, and test ideas.
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In other words:

Right Divider said:
Science is not about a battle of opinions, current or otherwise.
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commonsense said:
JR could a Moslem just as easily assert "The single best argument for Allah's existence is that without Him, you have no argument." Or Odin for that matter. Et al.
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I can see that what I said went entirely over your head. But to answer your question:

No, because "Allah" does not exist, nor does Odin, et al, except as concepts.

Because:

If God did not exist, nothing would exist (He is the Creator of all things), and even if some-"thing" (ie, something physical) DID exist, there would be no meaning, no justification for anything non-physical.

In other words: You cannot even begin to form the question you asked without borrowing from the worldview provided by Christianity.
 
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commonsense said:
He's referred to Haitians as garbage, claims they're eating peoples cats and dogs.
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People in Ohio said they were eating cats and dogs. Trump is repeating what happened and talking about it. And he is right, they are garbage.
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I would say that yes, some people found it offensive.
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Who? I have never seen anybody do anything other than laugh, myself included. It was well made with the facial expressions. As I stated, you are offended at the Obama's in the AI video someone made because you equate them to primates and not human. But you have no problem with Bush because you don't view him as less than human.
 
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Nick M said:
People in Ohio said they were eating cats and dogs. Trump is repeating what happened and talking about it.
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Trump asserted it as fact during his debate with Kamala.
Nick M said:
And he is right, they are garbage.
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Man, you seem to have a lot of pent up anger and hatred, you must have been deeply hurt. Are you an incel? I hope (seriously) you can find a way to let it go. Jesus was absolutely right when He taught to forgive those that transgress against us. It's for our own benefit, so we can be healed.
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Who? I have never seen anybody do anything other than laugh, myself included. It was well made with the facial expressions. As I stated, you are offended at the Obama's in the AI video someone made because you equate them to primates and not human. But you have no problem with Bush because you don't view him as less than human.
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Portraying whites as apes doesn't have a history of being associated with racism.
 
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