Jerry Shugart
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Dan
Who was the first believer in Christ?
John the Baptist.
Dan
Who was the first believer in Christ?
Hi Dan and you are mistaken:
"Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity. Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus." (1 Pet.5:14).
John the Baptist.
Luk 7:18-19 KJV And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things. (19) And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
Luk 7:18-19 KJV And the disciples of John shewed him of all these things. (19) And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?
John the Baptist bore witness of Jesus Christ before Luke 7:18-19:
"John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me" (Jn.1:15).
"And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God" (Jn.1:32-34).
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased" (Lk.3:22).
Hi n Jerry and can you say from what what Peter said in 5:14 , and where does he say what it means to be " in CHRIST " ???????
I know that.
My point was that J the B is NOT the PATTERN for the body of Christ... that's Paul.
Because J the B was not even sure that Jesus was the Christ.Then why did you quote a verse from Luke 7?
"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another" (Ro.12:5).
When the expression "in Christ" or "in Christ Jesus" is used the reference is to being in the Body of Christ. And that is how it is used here:
"Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me" (Ro.16:7).
Paul was not the first member of the Body of Christ but he was the one who began the present dispensation when he preached the gospel of God's grace to the Gentiles.
Hi Jerry , so what does Peter , in 1 Peter 5:14 explain what being " in CHRIST " MEANS ?
Because J the B was not even sure that Jesus was the Christ.
The question I answered was: "Who was the first believer in Christ?"
Do you deny that the Baptist was the first believer in Christ despite the fact that he declared that the Lord Jesus is the Son of God (Jn.1:34)?
If it doesn't mean being in the Body of Christ then what does it mean?
Don't you know that only those in the Body of Christ have their life in the Son:
"And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son" (1 Jn.5:11).
Hi Jerry you QUOTED 1 Peter 5:14 , so where does Peter mean by being , "in CHRIST " ?
Dan,it means being in the Body of Christ:
"So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another" (Ro.12:5).
Where does it say that Peter is in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
John the Baptist.
Where does it say that Peter is in the BODY OF CHRIST ?
You dont believe Abraham believed in Christ ? Jn 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
or Moses Heb 11:24-26
24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
dan p
unlearned question, where does it say he wasnt in the body of Christ.
He was an apostle therefore a member of Christs body Eph 4:10-12
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
1 Cor 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1 Cor 12
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many. ...