You're confused about this thread it hasn't anything to do with what you are talking about. Maybe you ought to read again the Op to understand what the premise of my thread is about.
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Really now?
Your OP:
The answer is absolutely yes. If we agree with the overall definition of work according to the greek word for work ergon:
See strongs # 2041:
- business, employment, that which any one is occupied
- that which one undertakes to do, enterprise, undertaking
- any product whatever, any thing accomplished by hand, art, industry, or mind
- an act, deed, thing done: the idea of working is emphasised in opp. to that which is less than work
A work is anything done, accomplished by #1 hand, #2 art, #3 industry, #4 or MIND
The mind is :
(in a human or other conscious being) the element, part, substance, or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc.
Psychology. the totality of conscious and unconscious mental processes and activities.
So believing something via the mental activity and process of reasoning is work. The process of decision making is a activity, work of the mind.
Now for instance, the sin of hatred Gal 5:19-20
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
How is that sin committed ? It starts in the mind or heart ! Yet in Vs 19 its stated as an work of the flesh
So activity in and with the mind/heart is a work, this cannot be denied..
Now believing is either a work of the flesh [unregenerate] or of the Spirit [ regenerated]
But now Salvation is not by works, Neither by works of the flesh or works of the Spirit.
Your second post:
So if one says God saved me because of my believing/ faith
Then congratulations you are boasting about God saved you by your works !
Your third post:
Your fourth post:
Amen. As 2 Tim 2:10 emphasizes "not according to our works" not because we believe, since believing is a work we do!
Your fifth post:
Believing is a work. That's the point of this thread.
You affirm that believing is works and that salvation is not by works/believing/faith.
Then this:
Any act of obedience to Gods command is a work, a good work. Believing on Christ is a commandment of God, so therefore a good work 1 Jn 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
The word believe here is the greek word pisteuō and in this instance its an imperative which means:
The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers.So believing here would be a good work performed by the Jailor if he obeyed the imperative !
And if his act of obeying this command caused God to save him, then he was saved because of a god work he performed !
Then you repeat:
Here's another scripture that indicates faith has an element of action to it. Jesus says in Mk 11:22
And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
This is an imperative that requires action
[FONT=arial, helvetica]The imperative mood corresponds to the English imperative, and expresses[/FONT] a command to the hearer to perform a certain action [FONT=arial, helvetica]by the order and authority of the one commanding. Thus, Jesus' phrase, "Repent ye, and believe the gospel" (Mk.1:15) is not at all an "invitation," but an absolute command requiring full obedience on the part of all hearers. [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica]People try to dismiss truth by worldly arguments, the wisdom of this world.
Yes Faith here is a noun however an action is required, which is a work[/FONT]
After all the blustering about works you slip up and admit that
works are required, implying that they are required for salvation; that you do is undeniable, as is shown by your posts.
I wouldn't want to discuss it either if I were you, so I don't blame you for trying to avoid my question
about your points.
You really do want to believe what you've been taught about God, but you know it just doesn't add up; therefore, you slipped up and portrayed what you really believe. You know down deep inside that salvation
is by a co-operative action by God and man and that believing
is required by man and that man has salvation
only when he has believing/faith/works, as you call it.
Your quandary cannot be avoided while adhering to the monergistic conundrum of Calvinism. Keep up the good work of exposing how
your doctrine is indeed the doctrine of man.
Your entire doctrine is based upon
your ability to comprehend the character and existence of God,
while claiming others to be boasting about their ability to believe.
Read the Bible, all of it, without man's preconceived notions, and it will straighten you out.
And... never forget that a god who creates evil, cannot be trusted.