Justified from all things

[Jerry Shugart]

One is Justified before God by His Blood if Christ died for them, when they are born into the world as unbelievers.

So you actually believe that people believe the gospel before the foundation of the world?

 

[beloved57]

J's

Those of us who actually believe the Bible know that it is by the Lord Jesus' death upon the Cross whereby we are justified.

Oh really? So then if Christ died for everyone without exception then why aren't everyone without exception Justified?

 

[beloved57]

J's

People do not believe the gospel before the foundation of the world.

Off the wall comment, who said people believe the gospel before the foundation of the world?

 

[beloved57]

So you actually believe that people believe the gospel before the foundation of the world?

Misrepresentation by you! Where in the world I stated people believe the Gospel before the foundation of the world?

 

[Bradley D]

So if Christ shed His blood for someone they're Justified ! If you deny that you don't have faith in Him!

Christ shed His blood for all who will come to Him to be saved.

 

[beloved57]

Christ shed His blood for all who will come to Him to be saved.

False statement! Unless it's meant that all for whom He shed His Blood for will be saved.

Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

 

[Bradley D]

False statement! Unless it's meant that all for whom He shed His Blood for will be saved.

Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).


It is the will of the person to come to Christ. The elect will be those who have made the decision to come to Christ.

 

[beloved57]

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).


It is the will of the person to come to Christ. The elect will be those who have made the decision to come to Christ.

Why can't you say yes or no when asked?

Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

 

[Bradley D]

Why can't you say yes or no when asked?

Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

Are you saying that Christ shed His blood for a particular person and not an another? Yes or No

 

[beloved57]

Are you saying that Christ shed His blood for a particular person and not an another? Yes or No

Look please answer the question with a yes or no


Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

 

[Bradley D]

Why can't you say yes or no when asked?

Do you believe it's possible for Christ to shed His Blood for a person and they not come to Him and be saved? Yes or No

Christ did not shed His blood for a particular person. But for all sinners. So is it possible for a sinner to not come to Him and be saved? Yes Few are saved!

 

[beloved57]

Christ did not shed His blood for a particular person. But for all sinners. So is it possible for a sinner to not come to Him and be saved? Yes Few are saved!

Then you deny the saving death of Christ and believe in Salvation by Works!

 

[Bradley D]

Then you deny the saving death of Christ and believe in Salvation by Works!

No. Christians are expected to live according to the Word of Christ. But, no amount of good works gets one into heaven. They are expected because charity is to be the base of our lives.

 

[beloved57]

No. Christians are expected to live according to the Word of Christ. But, no amount of good works gets one into heaven. They are expected because charity is to be the base of our lives.

If you believe that Jesus Christ shed His Blood even for the Lost, then you by default believe in Salvation by Works, by something the sinner does to make the difference between saved and lost. You certainly dont believe Christs blood alone made the difference !

 

[Bradley D]

If you believe that Jesus Christ shed His Blood even for the Lost, then you by default believe in Salvation by Works, by something the sinner does to make the difference between saved and lost. You certainly dont believe Christs blood alone made the difference !

We all start out lost. When we realize our sins, believe in Jesus, repent, and are cleansed by Jesus' sacrifice for us. We receive the Holy Spirit and amendment of life comes. If one does amend their life then I question their salvation.

 

[beloved57]

We all start out lost. When we realize our sins, believe in Jesus, repent, and are cleansed by Jesus' sacrifice for us. We receive the Holy Spirit and amendment of life comes. If one does amend their life then I question their salvation.

No matter how you slice it sir you are believing salvation by works. That's a denial of Christ and Grace !

 

[Nanja]

No matter how you slice it sir you are believing salvation by works. That's a denial of Christ and Grace !

Exactly Brother !

 

[Bradley D]

No matter how you slice it sir you are believing salvation by works. That's a denial of Christ and Grace !

So when one is saved they do not change?

 

[beloved57]

So when one is saved they do not change?

This thread is about being justified from all things. You not interested in that? How does that happen according to my original post?

 

[Bradley D]

This thread is about being justified from all things. You not interested in that? How does that happen according to my original post?

Through Christ's sacrifice those who believe on Him shall be saved.

is justified
δικαιοῦται (dikaioutai)
Verb - Present Indicative Middle or Passive - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 1344: From dikaios; to render just or innocent.