marijuana and scromiting

glorydaz

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:wave:

speaking of buying it
:think:
do the legal pot shops do free samples ?


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I don't know, but we have so many home growers around here I don't know who would go to those pot shops.

I guess those who don't know about the 12 hour dark cycle. :chuckle:
 

way 2 go

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Effects of drunk driving are much worse.

stoned drivers kill what is worse than that?

pot heads are catching up fast on the driving impaired fatality list,
in Colorado up a staggering 145%

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The 2013-16 period saw a 40 percent increase in the number of all drivers involved in fatal crashes in Colorado, from 627 to 880, according to the NHTSA data. Those who tested positive for alcohol in fatal crashes from 2013 to 2015 — figures for 2016 were not available — grew 17 percent, from 129 to 151.
By contrast, the number of drivers who tested positive for marijuana use jumped 145 percent — from 47 in 2013 to 115 in 2016. During that time, the prevalence of testing drivers for marijuana use did not change appreciably, federal fatal-crash data show.
And the numbers probably are even higher.

State law does not require coroners to test deceased drivers specifically for marijuana use in fatal wrecks — some do and some don’t — and many police agencies say they don’t pursue cannabinoid tests of a surviving driver whose blood alcohol level is already high enough to charge them with a crime
 

way 2 go

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You think alcoholics aren't losers?
a pothead with the equivalent usage of an alcoholic
the pothead is going to be the loser

people can have 1 drink & drive
potheads think they can smoke dope & drive and they kill people


Colorado's transportation department after a 2014 study revealed a disturbing statistic: 43 percent of the state's marijuana users didn't know it was illegal to drive under the drug's influence.
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"Alcohol consumption is one possible risk factor for Alzheimer's Disease." -- https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-4/299-306.htm

Effects of alcohol are much worse.

from your link

A summary of 11 of these case-control studies showed that 9 of the studies found no significant relationship between alcohol use and AD, 1 found that alcohol use increased the risk, and 1 found that alcohol use decreased the risk of Alzheimer's Disease

CONCLUSIONS
Although it is biologically plausible that drinking increases the risk of AD, epidemiologic studies have not supported this hypothesis. Currently, no strong evidence suggests that alcohol use influences the risk of developing Alzheimer's Disease
 

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a pothead with the equivalent usage of an alcoholic
the pothead is going to be the loser

people can have 1 drink & drive

What do you consider to be "equivalent usage"?

potheads think they can smoke dope & drive and they kill people

Colorado's transportation department after a 2014 study revealed a disturbing statistic: 43 percent of the state's marijuana users didn't know it was illegal to drive under the drug's influence.
link

Sounds like they need to be educated.

from your link

A summary of 11 of these case-control studies showed that 9 of the studies found no significant relationship between alcohol use and AD, 1 found that alcohol use increased the risk, and 1 found that alcohol use decreased the risk of Alzheimer's Disease

CONCLUSIONS
Although it is biologically plausible that drinking increases the risk of AD, epidemiologic studies have not supported this hypothesis. Currently, no strong evidence suggests that alcohol use influences the risk of developing Alzheimer's Disease

Also from my link: "Some of the detrimental effects of heavy alcohol use on brain function are similar to those observed with Alzheimer's disease (AD). Although alcohol use may be a risk factor for AD, it is difficult to study this relationship because of similarities between alcoholic dementia and AD..."

Also you missed the post about marijuana being used to treat and prevent Alzheimer's:

"Here, we demonstrate that the active component of marijuana, Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), competitively inhibits the enzyme acetylcholinesterase (AChE) as well as prevents AChE-induced amyloid beta-peptide (Abeta) aggregation, the key pathological marker of Alzheimer's disease." -- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17140265

Sort of puts things in perspective, doesn't it?
 

way 2 go

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"Teen alcohol use kills 4,300 people each year – that’s more than all illegal drugs combined." -- https://www.madd.org/statistics/

Sobriety is obviously the optimal state of mind, but by any standard of measure, wherever it can be said that pot is bad alcohol is much worse.

don't worry dope will surpass alcohol , just give it time .

fatal crashes up 145 percent — from 47 in 2013 to 115 in 2016




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glorydaz

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No point arguing with him.



That "Reefer Madness" message has been the same for years, but more and more people are finding that message to be a total exaggeration. My own folks (old school trucker rednecks) had to change their stance on pot once they actually tried it.

Unfortunately, dad preferred his drink...the pot just didn't give him the buzz he liked so much.
 

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don't worry dope will surpass alcohol , just give it time .

fatal crashes up 145 percent — from 47 in 2013 to 115 in 2016

Your own source states: "Authorities say the numbers cannot be definitively linked to legalized pot".

Meanwhile:

When it comes to impaired driving, alcohol remains the biggest threat. A third of all drivers who die in crashes in the U.S. have a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08 percent or higher. That proportion hasn’t budged since 1994. Nearly 7,000 deaths could have been prevented in 2015 if all drivers were below the legal limit, IIHS estimates. “The battle against alcohol-impaired driving isn’t won,” says Adrian Lund, IIHS president...“Among all drugs, alcohol is still the biggest contributor to fatal crashes,” Lund says. -- http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr5204.pdf

The negative effects of alcohol are far worse than the negative effects of marijuana.
 

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From the Washington Post:

A new study from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finds that drivers who use marijuana are at a significantly lower risk for a crash than drivers who use alcohol. And after adjusting for age, gender, race and alcohol use, drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash than who had not used any drugs or alcohol prior to driving.

The chart above tells the story. For marijuana, and for a number of other legal and illegal drugs including antidepressants, painkillers, stimulants and the like, there is no statistically significant change in the risk of a crash associated with using that drug prior to driving. But overall alcohol use, measured at a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) threshold of 0.05 or above, increases your odds of a wreck nearly seven-fold.

The study's findings underscore an important point: that the measurable presence of THC (marijuana's primary active ingredient) in a person's system doesn't correlate with impairment in the same way that blood alcohol concentration does. The NHTSA doesn't mince words: "At the current time, specific drug concentration levels cannot be reliably equated with a specific degree of driver impairment."

You can read more at the source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.ab49f62ca9f7
 

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he is experimenting on himself to see if he can prevent getting Alzheimer's disease

taking one for the team

In fact I have hardly ever smoked the stuff. But here is another fun fact for you! Quote:

Pre–recreational marijuana legalization annual changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado were similar to those for the control states. Post–recreational marijuana legalization changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado also did not significantly differ from those for the control states.

Conclusions. Three years after recreational marijuana legalization, changes in motor vehicle crash fatality rates for Washington and Colorado were not statistically different from those in similar states without recreational marijuana legalization. Future studies over a longer time remain warranted.

Source: http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2017.303848
 

way 2 go

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From the Washington Post:

A new study from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration finds that drivers who use marijuana are at a significantly lower risk for a crash than drivers who use alcohol. And after adjusting for age, gender, race and alcohol use, drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash than who had not used any drugs or alcohol prior to driving.

The chart above tells the story. For marijuana, and for a number of other legal and illegal drugs including antidepressants, painkillers, stimulants and the like, there is no statistically significant change in the risk of a crash associated with using that drug prior to driving. But overall alcohol use, measured at a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) threshold of 0.05 or above, increases your odds of a wreck nearly seven-fold.

The study's findings underscore an important point: that the measurable presence of THC (marijuana's primary active ingredient) in a person's system doesn't correlate with impairment in the same way that blood alcohol concentration does. The NHTSA doesn't mince words: "At the current time, specific drug concentration levels cannot be reliably equated with a specific degree of driver impairment."

You can read more at the source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...new-federal-data-show/?utm_term=.ab49f62ca9f7

we need better testing

Several states have passed laws attempting to define "marijuana-impaired driving" similarly to drunk driving. Colorado, for instance, sets a blood THC threshold of 5 nanograms per milliliter. But that number tells us next to nothing about whether a person is impaired or fit to drive.


What we do need, however, are better roadside mechanisms for detecting marijuana-related impairment

something new for the coroners to study
 

way 2 go

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Legalized recreational marijuana use in Colorado, Oregon and Washington correlates to about a 3 percent increase in auto collision claim frequencies compared to states without such legislation

Colorado saw the largest estimated increase in claim frequency -- 14 percent more than its bordering states, while Washington state was 6 percent greater and Oregon had a 4 percent increase


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/legal-pot-and-car-crashes-yes-theres-a-link/
 

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don't worry dope will surpass alcohol , just give it time .

fatal crashes up 145 percent — from 47 in 2013 to 115 in 2016

Legalized recreational marijuana use in Colorado, Oregon and Washington correlates to about a 3 percent increase in auto collision claim frequencies compared to states without such legislation

Well which is it, 3 percent or 145 percent ???????????
 
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