Mortal sin, free will, and going to Communion

Hoping

Well-known member
You are the religious version of a Democrat. When you cannot answer one argument you start spewing out all sorts or propaganda spaghetti hoping a few pieces with stick the wall.
There was nothing to answer.
Just false doctrine.
People like you do not know how to have thoughtful respectful conversations.
You asked "Do you have a scripture for that?"
And I replied: ""Do this in memory of me."
"Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood you have no life in you."
Instead of continuing the conversation you changed subject and started spewing out nonsense. Like I said, people like you do not know how to have thoughtful respectful conversations.
Show me the word "mass" in the bible.
I don't argue against doing the Lord's supper at all, just your POV that it must be done on a certain day of the week.
Seems sorta Pharisaical to me.
So, each some of the NEW issues I quoted have all been discussed in various threads.
Find one and ask your question, don't derail this thread with your ignorance and your lack of ability to stay on one topic.
No thanks.
I spent enough of my life under those who are not free from sin to go back under such slavery to sin again.
Why do you care what they wear. What a stupid question.
LOL.
When you are ready for freedom, God will supply it.
He won't be using those enslaved to sin to teach freedom from sin.
 

Idolater

What, were you born in a barn?

Idolater

What, were you born in a barn?
It "alludes to" meeting together.
Matthew 18:20 "where two or three are gathered together in my name" Acts 2:42 "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread" Hebrews 10:25 "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is"

It's Mass. Stop being dense.
What do the next five verses "allude to"?
It is written..."For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people." (Heb 10:26-30)
Instead of holding on to faith, your religion accommodates sin with a "sacrament" of confession.
That isn't even close to true without impugning the Lord's sacrifice on the cross at the same time.

I'm sure you don't want to be doing that, right?
That is just a glorification of retelling your sins over and over again.
It is written that "God heareth not sinners." (John 9:31)
Until a man's repentance from sin is true, they waste their time praying.
You should probably be worrying more about your own sin than with that of others.
 

Right Divider

Body part
The institution of the office of a bishop is in the Bible.
Six references to "bishop" in the Bible. ALL but ONE are in Paul's epistles. Paul was NOT a "catholic". Paul was NOT under the authority of the twelve. Paul was called and commissoned by Christ for a NEW and DIFFERENT purpose. Paul was the LAST one to SEE Christ. The remaining reference refers to CHRIST Himself.
 

Hoping

Well-known member
Matthew 18:20 "where two or three are gathered together in my name" Acts 2:42 "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread" Hebrews 10:25 "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is"
It's Mass. Stop being dense.
Call it what you wish.
But the capitalization makes it appear idolatrous.
That isn't even close to true without impugning the Lord's sacrifice on the cross at the same time.
So after how many years of your religion have you not yet received the knowledge of the truth? (Heb 10:26)
I'm sure you don't want to be doing that, right?
I haven't yet while I write on purity, freedom, and holiness.
You should probably be worrying more about your own sin than with that of others.
I am glad you are at least aware of "worry about sin".
It is a start towards "worrying about staying free from sin".

It starts with a real repentance from sin.
 

Idolater

What, were you born in a barn?
Call it what you wish.
But the capitalization makes it appear idolatrous.
Sigh. The scrupulosity's strong with this one.
So after how many years of your religion have you not yet received the knowledge of the truth? (Heb 10:26)
My point stands. You can't accuse Catholics like how you do, without also accusing Jesus Christ Himself.
I haven't yet while I write on purity, freedom, and holiness.

I am glad you are at least aware of "worry about sin".
It is a start towards "worrying about staying free from sin".

It starts with a real repentance from sin.
It starts with obeying your Lord.

Go to Mass.
 

Hoping

Well-known member
Sigh. The scrupulosity's strong with this one.
Every one gets to say what they think.
My point stands. You can't accuse Catholics like how you do, without also accusing Jesus Christ Himself.
As the two are so far apart, I don't feel Jesus, or His doctrine, can be impugned by the truth concerning a false "church" or false doctrine.
It starts with obeying your Lord.
Amen to that, and if accomplished, by the grace of God, purgatory is superfluous.
Go to Mass.
I have been freed from your congregation of the dead.
 

Idolater

What, were you born in a barn?
Every one gets to say what they think.

As the two are so far apart, I don't feel Jesus, or His doctrine, can be impugned
Not His doctrine. His sacrifice.
by the truth concerning a false "church" or false doctrine.

Amen to that, and if accomplished, by the grace of God, purgatory is superfluous.

I have been freed from your congregation of the dead.
I thought you were freed from sin. You equate being Catholic with sin? Yikes.
 

Hoping

Well-known member
Not His doctrine. His sacrifice.
He died so we can be reborn.
Those reborn of God's seed are free of that which appeals to the sons of Adam.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)

I thought you were freed from sin. You equate being Catholic with sin? Yikes.
I equate all false "churches" with death.
But life is out here when you want it.
 

Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
Banned
I thought you were freed from sin. You equate being Catholic with sin? Yikes.

Lets ignore that dude and move on.

Why is it mortal sin, objectively speaking, to choose to stay away from Mass on Sundays or holy days of obligation? The answer is, by that decision, on that occasion, we turn our backs on Christ and on the process of our redemption. We refuse to carry out Christ’s command to “do this” for the recalling and receiving of him and his salvation.

With regard to the Eucharist, Scripture explains that “as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes” (1 Cor. 11:26).

Why must we proclaim the Lord’s death to God the Father? Because when we proclaim the death of the Lord God the Father continues the work of our redemption. . . . For whenever this memorial sacrifice is celebrated the work of our redemption is renewed

Speaking of the will of the Father that the Son came to accomplish, Hebrews explains, “And this will was for us to be holy by the offering of his body made once for all by Jesus Christ” (Heb. 10:10).

The offering made once for all is continually repeated in our behalf by the celebration of the Eucharist, thus continuing the working-out of our redemption. “By virtue of that one single offering, he has achieved the eternal perfection of all whom he is sanctifying.. ” Literally, “for by one offering he has perfected in perpetuity the [ones] being sanctified” (10:14; emphasis added). Note the present progressive tense: the process of sanctifying, the process of applying the benefits of Christ’s redemption to each of us, is going on right now through the Eucharist.

Sharing in Eucharistic worship is the primary means whereby we allow the Holy Spirit to work out our salvation in us.

The Eucharist is a true sacrifice, says the Church’s Catechism, “because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the Cross, .. and because it applies its fruit” (1366; emphasis in the original). The Eucharist applies to each repentant worshiper the fruit of Christ’s victory on the cross. Again, and in even stronger language, the Catechism asserts, “The Eucharist is the efficacious sign and sublime cause of that communion in the divine life and that unity of the People of God by which the Church is kept in being” (1325; emphasis added). Think of that! Through the Eucharist God maintains the very being of the ark of salvation, the Catholic Church.

When we take our part in the Eucharistic action, we allow Jesus to exercise his high priesthood in our behalf by re-presenting his perfect offering of himself to the Father for our salvation. We allow the Holy Spirit to apply to us the salvation won for us on the cross by God the Son. When we share in the Eucharist, we cooperate in the continuing process of our sanctification (“work out your own salvation. . .”). That process is never complete in this life. It must continue until we draw our last breath.

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Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
Banned
Patrick Madrid lays out the general conditions and situations in which missing Mass on a Sunday or a Holy Day of Obligation does or does not constitute a mortal sin.

How Bad is it to Miss Mass?​


 
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