Muhammad Ali refuses to fight in Vietnam (1967)

aCultureWarrior

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...I don't care what Ali's beliefs were. I still appreciate him for his legendary career.

An appreciation of people with strong moral fiber never was one of your attributes shag.

BTW, I was able to find an old photo of you during your military days:

gi-in-heels-5.jpg
 

shagster01

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An appreciation of people with strong moral fiber never was one of your attributes shag.

BTW, I was able to find an old photo of you during your military days:

gi-in-heels-5.jpg
So you have zero respect for any accomplishment of anyone that might have a racist background? Our forefathers, for example?
 

aCultureWarrior

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So you have zero respect for any accomplishment of anyone that might have a racist background? Our forefathers, for example?

Thanks for acknowledging that Mo Ali was a racist:

"No, I am not going ten thousand miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over..".

Regarding our Founding Fathers (which you know nothing about) : You mean the ones that wrote "All men are created equal"?

BTW: I've been meaning to tell you: your signature is a lie:

Several unanimous Supreme Court decisions, and virtually every jurist
and scholar in the world agrees that the Common Law is based on
Christian principles and has a long Christian history
. Jefferson, in an
anti-Christian fit of irrationalism, claimed otherwise. He was wrong.
http://vftonline.org/EndTheWall/commonlaw.htm
 

ok doser

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conscientious objectors could apply to serve in non-combatant roles (supply, communications, hospital service, etc)

ali was a coward
 

ok doser

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No, we left. Big difference.

we forced the vc to the paris peace accords and promised the south Vietnamese that, if the vc violated the terms, we'd support them

scumbag leftist trash like tom hayden abandoned them, allowing the whole region to descend into a maelstrom of killing
 

shagster01

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Thanks for acknowledging that Mo Ali was a racist:

I don't know if he was or not. I don't care either.


Regarding our Founding Fathers (which you know nothing about) : You mean the ones that wrote "All men are created equal"?

..yet owned slaves, and wouldn't let women or non-land owners or Native Americans vote. Yeah those ones.

See, black men weren't considered men to them. Later they would at least get to be 3/5ths of a man though.

BTW: I've been meaning to tell you: your signature is a lie:

Several unanimous Supreme Court decisions, and virtually every jurist
and scholar in the world agrees that the Common Law is based on
Christian principles and has a long Christian history
. Jefferson, in an
anti-Christian fit of irrationalism, claimed otherwise. He was wrong.
http://vftonline.org/EndTheWall/commonlaw.htm

It's a quote from a founding father. You know, those people you admire.
 

aCultureWarrior

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Thanks for acknowledging that Mo Ali was a racist:

I don't know if he was or not. I don't care either.

Anyone with at least two living brain cells could figure out that he was...oh wait.


Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
Regarding our Founding Fathers (which you know nothing about) : You mean the ones that wrote "All men are created equal"?

..yet owned slaves, and wouldn't let women or non-land owners or Native Americans vote. Yeah those ones. See, black men weren't considered men to them. Later they would at least get to be 3/5ths of a man though.


Again, you know nothing about the Founding Fathers. I notice that you're silent on the subject of Islam and slavery (It just isn't any fun for the doper if he can't bash Christians).

Speaking of Native Americans: How do you think the late Muhammad Ali would feel about a white guy marrying an American Indian woman and having mixed race children together?

Still admire the guy shag?

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

BTW: I've been meaning to tell you: your signature is a lie:

Several unanimous Supreme Court decisions, and virtually every jurist
and scholar in the world agrees that the Common Law is based on
Christian principles and has a long Christian history. Jefferson, in an
anti-Christian fit of irrationalism, claimed otherwise. He was wrong.
http://vftonline.org/EndTheWall/commonlaw.htm

It's a quote from a founding father. You know, those people you admire.

You obviously read the quote somewhere and saw it as an opportunity to bash Christianity without doing any research.
 

shagster01

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Again, you know nothing about the Founding Fathers. I notice that you're silent on the subject of Islam and slavery (It just isn't any fun for the doper if he can't bash Christians).

I'm most certainly not silent on it. ALL slavery is wrong.

Speaking of Native Americans: How do you think the late Muhammad Ali would feel about a white guy marrying an American Indian woman and having mixed race children together?

No idea what he'd think. Don't care either.

Still admire the guy shag?

As an athlete and competitor, absolutely.
 

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shagster said:
ALL slavery is wrong.

What slavery? When people are taken against their will and sold? Or when a person sells them self into service? Both?

I guess that pits you against socialist countries and Muslims.
 

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What slavery? When people are taken against their will and sold? Or when a person sells them self into service? Both?

When people are taken against their will, for sure. If you sell yourself, then you were compensated, but it would depend on the particular case.

I guess that pits you against socialist countries and Muslims.
As a libertarian, I am very much anti-socialism. It's closer to theocracy than to libertarianism.

None of the Muslims I know personally own or agree with slavery. Any muslim that does is wrong in that stance.
 

Nick M

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When people are taken against their will, for sure. If you sell yourself, then you were compensated, but it would depend on the particular case.

Then you are in line with what God says in the Bible.

Exodus 21

16 “He who kidnaps a man and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, shall surely be put to death.


And yes, selling yourself (stupidity) is regulated to protect those that would do such a thing to themselves.

As a libertarian, I am very much anti-socialism.

Except you vote for Democrats, so your statement doesn't mean...anything.
 

shagster01

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Then you are in line with what God says in the Bible.

Exodus 21

16 “He who kidnaps a man and sells him, or if he is found in his hand, shall surely be put to death.


And yes, selling yourself (stupidity) is regulated to protect those that would do such a thing to themselves.



Except you vote for Democrats, so your statement doesn't mean...anything.
I voted for Gary Johnson last election, Ron Paul before that, and Gary Johnson will get my vote this year again.

The last time I voted for a major party was when I stupidly voted for GW Bush in 2000.

In 2004 I was not in the country and didn't vote.
 

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I voted for Gary Johnson last election, Ron Paul before that, and Gary Johnson will get my vote this year again.

The last time I voted for a major party was when I stupidly voted for GW Bush in 2000.

In 2004 I was not in the country and didn't vote.

Smoke some weed and vote for Gary
 
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