VladtheDestroyer
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So this is something we just kinda decided to do on the fly. Ron is a pretty smart guy and I was sorta fumbling throughout the whole discussion. I've been on YouTube a couple times before and I always get real nervous and kinda stutter and I have a bit of a speech impediment that makes me a bit difficult to understand. But that's ok. If anything it might encourage others who are more capable than I am to give it a shot sometime. Him and I are both a bit dissatisfied in some of the ways that the online discourse between Christians and unbelievers seems to have devolved over the years. And I think he want's to try to create a platform for more genuine discussions rather that just these debates where you have 2 opponents who often just seem to be speaking past each other for most of the time.
I am ok with this idea. And I know that many of us are.
I think I did ok with a couple questions he had. But much of it caught me off guard. I haven't had a discussion like this with and atheist in a very long time.
One of the questions I feel he was essentially asking was if he could become a Christian without believing that Jesus and the God of the Bible are real.
I could not think of a good way to answer that at the time. I still can't. Part of me wanted to say yes because we grow in our understanding and in our relationship with the Lord. And that relationship is a process that I am sure isn't always the same for everyone, but the God of the Bible is more "real" to me now than He was a younger Christian. (meaning that I feel my relationship with God and my understanding of Him is much more stronger than it was when I was young and foolish. God is always real. )
But at the same time, of course I couldn't say "Christians don't have to believe in Jesus." And I believe part of being saved involves telling other's that you are saved!
Maybe someone a bit more qualified than I am (Perhaps Clete or JudgeRightly?) could help me understand what the right answer is here?
I'm posting the youtube video at the 26:20 mark. Shortly before the time this question gets asked in case someone doesn't have time to watch the whole video.
I am ok with this idea. And I know that many of us are.
I think I did ok with a couple questions he had. But much of it caught me off guard. I haven't had a discussion like this with and atheist in a very long time.
One of the questions I feel he was essentially asking was if he could become a Christian without believing that Jesus and the God of the Bible are real.
I could not think of a good way to answer that at the time. I still can't. Part of me wanted to say yes because we grow in our understanding and in our relationship with the Lord. And that relationship is a process that I am sure isn't always the same for everyone, but the God of the Bible is more "real" to me now than He was a younger Christian. (meaning that I feel my relationship with God and my understanding of Him is much more stronger than it was when I was young and foolish. God is always real. )
But at the same time, of course I couldn't say "Christians don't have to believe in Jesus." And I believe part of being saved involves telling other's that you are saved!
Maybe someone a bit more qualified than I am (Perhaps Clete or JudgeRightly?) could help me understand what the right answer is here?
I'm posting the youtube video at the 26:20 mark. Shortly before the time this question gets asked in case someone doesn't have time to watch the whole video.
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