Particle accelerator, the ultimate act of 'the dead burying their dead'.

Gurucam

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Currently people (modern scientists/physicist) who are only physically aware (i.e. spiritually dead people) are seeking to use a physical approach to access a portal to a parallel dimension through the quantum (spirit) reality, through their creation of a supposed 'black hole'.

They have built a very expensive and technical particle accelerator. They are using this devise for colliding sub-atomic particles at very high velocity. This is their attempt at reversing what they perceives to have originally created the world.

Indeed they will open a supposed 'black hole' to another dimension. This is right on schedule. The fullness of time is at hand for this event. However this will not be an actual 'black hole' which ends the world. The world is not scheduled to end at this time. It is simply scheduled to be transformed and placed under new and totally different leadership. This would be the fullness of time event which would enable children of God to inherit the world without children of the flesh.

Opening an actual 'black hole is way beyond their present capability. They are well aware that the 'consciousness' of the experimenter seriously influence, the outcome of any experiment.

Opening a 'black hole' is the ultimate feat. It is also a purely spiritual feat which can be done only by the most spiritually aware being.

Fact is no physically oriented (i.e. spiritually dead) scientist(s) can have an awareness which can enable the precipitation of an actual black hole, through any physically based or any other physical effort/experiment.

Their physical preoccupation testifies clearly that they lack spiritual awareness and spiritual actualization. The Lord Jesus and others exemplified that acts at this level are done spiritually, without any physical devises or physical effort.

 
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Gurucam

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The physical preoccupation of these modern 'particle accelerating' scientists testifies clearly that they lack spiritual awareness and spiritual actualization. The Lord Jesus and others exemplified that acts at this level are done spiritually, without any physical device or physical effort.

Fact is creating an actual 'black hole' is a final frontier event. The subtlest of the subtlest event. This can be achieved only through the highest spiritual awareness by the highest spiritually aware individuals. Such beings achieve this absolutely without the use of particle accelerators and/or other physical device or physical effort.

There is an inverse correlation between spiritual awareness and the need for physical effort/or physical devices for achieving things. The highest things in the creation can be achieve only through total spiritual intent, i.e. totally devoid of physical effort and/or physical devices.

If these scientist want to enter and function in the realm of other dimensions and 'black holes, they have to go back to Spirituality 101 and focus on their own individual spiritual awakening and spiritual growth.

When compared to experiments and accomplishments at the gross material level, experimentation and accomplishments at the quantum level is a totally different kettle of fish. These are exponentially increasingly subjective, tending to be absolutely and totally subjective at the deeper, finer and final frontier of purity and truth.

What these modern scientist/physics can achieve is not a 'black hole which ends earth. Their actions will open portal every where on earth, of a much lesser consequence. Their experiment is extremely physically based and unwittingly subjectively contaminated. They will open portals to a lower spiritual dimension.

They will temporarily open many portals simultaneously to a realm that is more physical and much lesser in spirit reality than the current reality on earth. This dimension will be much more suited to them and billion of their (spiritually dead) peers on earth.

Portals are like openings to bottomless pits with extremely strong gravitational-like pulls. However, unlike actual 'end of the world' 'black holes' (which are total in their pull), these 'lesser' portals are selective in what they pull.

These portals will attract and drag all spiritually dead people (i.e. their billion of their peers and them) totally out of this universe and into that parallel reality of increased spiritual dead-ness. Such a realm is called hell. In this way 'the dead' (children of the flesh) will leave this world and not inherit this world, together with children of God, now, in the fullness of time.

The physical bodies of these people will provide the fossil fuel of the future.

This would be the ultimate act of 'the dead burying their dead'.

 
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Gurucam

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Indeed, the above would be the ultimate act of 'the dead burying their dead'.

Fact is people are drawn to one of the many parallel realities in the creation, based on their individual awareness or lack of awareness. It is always a perfect match. Our universe is simply one of many parallel ones. It has recently become more spiritual, than it previously was.

Indeed a recent scheduled change in the dominating reality in this universe has occurred. This resulted in increased spirituality reality here. Now this universe is no longer instinct with all people here. It has become too spiritual for some people. More precisely 'the dead' can no longer live and survive here. They must and will be removed to another parallel universe which is more suited to their 'unawareness and their spiritually dead and Satanic ways.

These modern scientists/physicists, with their particle accelerator and their efforts, have unwittingly provided the way through which this transfer will occur in the twinkling of an eye.

These modern scientists through their particle accelerator and their related efforts, will very soon and any day now, open many portals to the depths of earth, which is hell. These openings will last for only the twinkling of an eye. This will be enough time for all spiritually dead people, from every where in the world, to be sucked into these holes in the earth, in the twinkling of an eye.

These portals would be highly destabilized temporary areas running very deep into the depths of earth. Through 'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation', these portals will materialize many places, every where in the earth's body. These scientists will indeed shake and destabilize the very matrix of the physical earth, for a few seconds. This will also be much to the determent of only the spiritually dead, who will disappear from every where on earth and reappear within the depths of earth, through 'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation'.

'The dead', whether 'particle accelerating scientists', their workers, religious leaders and their followers, politicians and their followers, capitalists and their followers, financiers and their followers and/or what ever else, are all spiritually unaware. They all share the same entanglement. They will all be teleported to the same place away from earth.
 
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Gurucam

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'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation'

'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation'

These portals would be highly destabilized temporary areas running very deep into the depths of earth. Through 'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation', these portals will materialize many places, every where in the earth's body.

These scientists will indeed shake and destabilize the very matrix of the physical earth, for a few seconds. This will also be much to the determent of only the spiritually dead. They will disappear from every where on earth and reappear within the depths of earth, through 'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation'.


Our world has changes and it is now no longer suited to the spiritually dead. Once this portal is opened the spiritually dead (the dead) who are on earth, will be drawn into a parallel world that is more suited to their unawareness, through 'spooky action at a distant', 'entanglement' and 'teleportation'.

These modern scientists with their particle accelerator and their related efforts are "the dead who will bury their dead" counterparts, by the billions. These (spiritually) 'dead', include past and current traditional world leaders from all spares of life and disciplines. These also include all these modern 'particle accelerating' scientists themselves and their financiers and sponsors. They are all of the Old and all commonly 'entangled'. They all share the now outdated unawareness or spiritual dead-ness.

The impending end is not the end of the world. It is simply an end of the world as we know it. It is not at all about having access to some arc or spaceship, so as to be saved, when the earth supposed dissolves or floods or overheat.

It is about the obedient spiritually aware people, being naturally and spontaneously aloof and remaining effortlessly and unscathed in their individual natural earth environment on earth, . . .
. . . while billions of spiritually dead people are plucked out of earth magically, all in the twinkling of an eye and sent through 'black holes like portals', into depths of earth, which is hell. All with the compliments of our modern 'particle accelerating' scientists.

Then there will be spontaneous remission of the earth. A return to "the garden of Eden" type reality. Humans and animals will not be required to plant the land. Every thing will be produced naturally spontaneously and bountiful. In fact all thing will be done, gotten and achieved, through individual power of (spirit) intent.

All people and things on earth will prosper and be easily fulfilled absolutely effortlessly (and seemingly magical). Other obedient spiritually aware being will return to earth from spirit heaven.

Indeed everything will be achieved on earth, more through only spiritual intent i.e. without physical effort. There will be no toiling in the fields and living in caves. 'Modern conveniences' will be absolutely better that it is now. It will run absolutely better and far more effortlessly.

The spirit realm and the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession will enable, in finest details, every opportunity on earth, for each human on earth, to express and materialize all the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration which are the fabric of each of his or her individual hearts or spirits, in absolute harmony.

This is what will become the reality on earth when the dead are totally teleported out of here.

This is your last opportunity to come on board with ( i.e to be chosen for) this new world on earth.
 
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Gurucam

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The Scientific Atheists are trying to find the Evolution Particle.

:dog::dog::dog:

You have to separate 'scientific' from 'atheist'. Atheists are not necessarily spiritually dead. Atheists who are spiritually aware would be saved.

Modern scientists are trying to find or isolate 'the God particle'. However they lack the necessary spiritual actualization to do so. They are spiritually dead.

They are trying to use physical devises and physical means to detect and discern something that is beyond even the spirit realm.

Their efforts will be very detrimental to themselves and their equally spiritually dead counterparts.

They will temporarily create a 'black hole of sorts' which will, 'in the twinkling of an eye', suck them and their equally spiritually dead counterparts (i.e. billions) clear out of the surface of earth and deep into the depths of earth through their unwittingly done, 'spooky action at a distant' and 'teleportation' through 'entanglement'.

These scientists are entangled with the particles which they accelerate at a level which they cannot yet discern. And they are also entangled with everyone connected to these experiments and also to all spiritually dead people, every where. 'Entanglement' does not respect time or place, people or thing.

These (particle accelerating) scientists are rushing in where angels fear to thread. However their actions and result are both inevitable. These are anchored in prophesy. The dead will inevitably bury their dead.

Indeed 'the dead' (i.e. 'children of the flesh') will not inherit earth together with 'children of God', now, in the fullness of time.

'The dead' (i.e. 'children of the flesh') are billions in numbers and they must now all be dispatched to elsewhere. These (particle accelerating) scientists are simply expediting this divine and inevitable end.

The backers and financiers of these scientists, probably feel safe because they are far away from the experiment sight and in some way physically protected.

Fact is, these backers and financiers share the same awareness (or unawareness) of these scientists and other unaware or 'spiritually dead' people everywhere. Indeed they are all 'entangled'. 'Entanglement' does not respect time or place, people or thing or armies etc..

'Entanglement' respects nothing. These backers and financiers and other 'spiritually dead' people everywhere, will all share the same 'spooky action at a distance' end. They are all 'entangled'. They will all be (seemingly magically) teleported from the surface of earth to the depths of earth, in the twinkling of an eye.

. . . a kind of poetic justice, that is inevitably divine.
 
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patrick jane

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Currently people (modern scientists/physicist) who are only physically aware (i.e. spiritually dead people) are seeking to use a physical approach to access a portal to a parallel dimension through the quantum (spirit) reality, through their creation of a supposed 'black hole'.

They have built a very expensive and technical particle accelerator. They are using this devise for colliding sub-atomic particles at very high velocity. This is their attempt at reversing what they perceives to have originally created the world.

Indeed they will open a supposed 'black hole' to another dimension. This is right on schedule. The fullness of time is at hand for this event. However this will not be an actual 'black hole' which ends the world. The world is not scheduled to end at this time. It is simply scheduled to be transformed and placed under new and totally different leadership. This would be the fullness of time event which would enable children of God to inherit the world without children of the flesh.

Opening an actual 'black hole is way beyond their present capability. They are well aware that the 'consciousness' of the experimenter seriously influence, the outcome of any experiment.

Opening a 'black hole' is the ultimate feat. It is also a purely spiritual feat which can be done only by the most spiritually aware being.

Fact is no physically oriented (i.e. spiritually dead) scientist(s) can have an awareness which can enable the precipitation of an actual black hole, through any physically based or any other physical effort/experiment.

Their physical preoccupation testifies clearly that they lack spiritual awareness and spiritual actualization. The Lord Jesus and others exemplified that acts at this level are done spiritually, without any physical devises or physical effort.



interesting read, i'll read the other posts too. for future reference the word is device. devices is plural - as in = a remote control device(s)

devise is to create = to devise a plan or 'he devises plans'
 

Gurucam

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interesting read, i'll read the other posts too. for future reference the word is device. devices is plural - as in = a remote control device(s)

devise is to create = to devise a plan or 'he devises plans'

Thanks

Also please read them all.

Kindest regards.
 

chrysostom

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they used one of these accelerators to get an electron to approach the speed of light
but
the mass kept on increasing
and
this required even more electrical power
they had to do it at night when more power was available
and
most would not notice the resulting decrease in voltage in the area

so where did all that energy go when the electron slowed down?

heat?
 

Gurucam

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they used one of these accelerators to get an electron to approach the speed of light
but
the mass kept on increasing
and
this required even more electrical power
they had to do it at night when more power was available
and
most would not notice the resulting decrease in voltage in the area

so where did all that energy go when the electron slowed down?

heat?

The energy is absorbed and stored in the heavy mass. It is there and it can be released without loosing a drop. The process can be reversed. Armed with their half baked ideas, these 'particle accelerating' scientists can do no better than create an unstable ticking time bomb. Not an exploding one. One that turn its release of energy internally to open a portal a dimension in line with their consciousness. Then they will be dragged into that dimension silently, naturally and spontaneously. They will simply disappear from earth.

Energy and matter are interchangeable. They share an inverse relationship. In any given entity, as its mass (density) increases its energy decreases. However this change of state from energy to matter in any entity takes energy which is absorbed and stored in the particular entity. Conversely when an entity changes from matter to energy the same quantum of energy is given out. It is called latent energy.

Are you familiar with latent heat.

When a liquid is heated, the absorption of energy is evident by the rising temperature of the liquid until it reaches boiling point.

However after this, heat continues to be applied but there is no corresponding increase in temperature.

The heat energy seem to be disappearing.

Fact is the heat energy is needed for and absorbed in, the change of state event as the liquid changes to gas while staying at the same temperature. This is called latent energy. It is not lost it is held in the gas.

When this conversion of: energy to matter and matter to energy occurs in smaller and smaller particles greater and greater quantum of energy are required and given out.

This is the basis of nuclear energy.

In the old traditional way, people operated at the very gross material level, to get heat energy. They derived heat from converting the mass in a block of fire wood to energy. This gave a very small energy per mass.

Today very much greater quantum of heat energy per mass, is derive by operating at a much finer sub atomic nuclear level.

When one burns a block of wood one will probably make breakfast for one family. However when one split a nucleus, the energy derived can provide all the energy needs for a city for more than their breakfast.

Burning wood is an act at the gross physical level. Nuclear energy is derived by operating at the spirit or force level. The force or spirit level is the subatomic or quantum level.

Humans who can operate (or are led) from their spirit are far more powerful and bountifully successful than those who operate (or are led) only from their gross material level.

Management of events or experiments at the subatomic or quantum level requires people with related gifts of the Spirit. These modern scientist are not qualified to venture into the subatomic or quantum field. They will 'mess-up' very badly.

Their experiments with nuclear energy is far from complete. They have created a by product (nuclear waste) that is a crazy force or evil spirit. They cannot deal adequately with this waste. Their entire nuclear energy effort is half baked and they are not bothered.

The outcome of their experiments with particle acceleration would be much worse. They are creating a weapon that will be naturally, spontaneously and inevitably guided to them and only their kind. They are totally entangled with their product. It will not be an explosive type event. Their actions and product is a materialization of their consciousness (or lacking consciousness). There is no difference between their consciousness and their product. This is the reality at the quantum level.

If their product create hell or open a portal to hell, it must and will take them and all their peers to hell. They are entangled. It will be a silent 'split second' teleporting event based on their undetectable consciousness 'spooky action at a distance' link to their product.
 
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Gurucam

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Here is to adding more meat to the bone of post # 10 above:

The energy is absorbed and stored in the heavy mass. It is there and it can be released without loosing a drop. The process can be reversed.

Armed with their half baked ideas, these 'particle accelerating' scientists can do no better than create an unstable ticking time bomb.

This is not an exploding one. It is an imploding one of sorts. This is one that turn its release of energy internally to open a portal in the quantum field. This portal will be an opening to a dimension in line with their consciousness (ideologies). That is, one that is in line with their unawareness and predominating physicality. Then they will be dragged into that dimension silently, naturally and spontaneously. They will simply disappear from earth, by teleportation.

Fact is the creation is always conspiring to give everyone what they want. This is achieved in parallel universes. Our world is simply one such universe.

No one is actually stuck in any universe. It can be very fluid. Indeed it is very fluid for some.

There are those who believe that the path to happiness and success is through 'what you see is what you get'. The look only to things that are 'seen' and temporal. They cannot and do not look to things that are 'not seen' and eternal. That is, they perceive and believe that they can and must apply only physical means and physical devices, to accomplish their aims and desires.

They rely on particle accelerators and armies and physical weapons as their tools. They perceive that the pyramids were built only by physical labor. They cannot conceive that they were built through the powers of 'faith as little as a mustard seed' which can move mountains.

They are unaware of spiritual gifts and spiritual devices. They are not aware that these are totally non-physical capacities and tools. Also they do not know or recognize that these are the only capacities and tools for functioning in the quantum field where one can precipitate one's material and other desires, effortlessly.

Up to recently these modern scientists and their like kinds were tolerable in this dimension. This dimension was (in line with) instinct with their consciousness (or lack of consciousness). However this has changed.

Through a new alignment of heavenly bodies the essential matrix of our earthly dimension has change. Our dimension has move into a higher Spiritual Age. It is no longer tolerant or friendly to these modern scientists and their spiritually dead counterparts.

They must be and will be move to another dimension that is more suited to their spiritual unawareness. Their spiritual unawareness defines the matrix of their 'entanglement'. They are no longer entangled with this dimension. They must and will inevitably be sucked into a parallel universe which is in line with their entanglement. This will be done naturally and spontaneously through teleportation. In our dimension, the fabric of their entanglement is what is described as hell.

We had a little heaven and plenty hell in our universe. This has changed. Now all unaware people, including modern 'particle' scientists and their backers and supporters are totally out of place here. They are destine to a parallel universe which people here describe as hell.

In this creation there are many levels of beings and many levels of dimensions. The following is a very rough rudimentary and over simplified explanation of pecking order:

The fabric of creation is consciousness, energy and matter.

1.) Beings are supernatural, divine or totally superior when they can achieve their ends by operating only through consciousness.

2.) Beings are of the middle order when they can achieve their ends by operating only through a combination of consciousness and energy.

3.) Beings are of the lowest order when they can achieve their ends by operating only through a combination of consciousness, energy and matter.

Our modern 'particle accelerating' scientist, are of the third kind. In fact they are ranking about the lowest in the lowest kind. They are very physically consumed. Their consciousness and/or energy consumption is very small. They are 'the dead'. They savor the things of 'man' (their physical side) and not the things of God (their conscious and/or energy side).

In their delude state they believe that through their physically based 'particle accelerating' efforts they can have 'first contact'. 'First contact' describes 'first contact' with higher beings in the creation.

They are absolutely foolish. They have viewed too much of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek (of CBS Studios Inc.).

The ideas and the depiction of the ideas in Gene Roddenberry's, Star Trek might be reasonable. However the means through which these are achieved is pure deluded proper-gander (either wittingly or unwittingly done).

Fact is there are being on earth who have long had 'first and continuing contact' with higher being (i.e. more advanced 'aliens'). These are like and include the Lord Jesus clad only in his Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body. This is not done through any physical means or physical device, like 'physical warp drive devices' and/or 'U.S.S. Enterprise' type ships.

However 'physical warp drive' like devices and/or 'U.S.S. Enterprise' type ships are the exact models which these foolish 'particle acceleration' scientist are mimicking in their experimentation. They are mimicking the made-up character "Dr. Zefram Cochrane" of Star Trek fame.

In a Star Trek episode, "Dr. Zefram Cochrane" is credited for discovering/developing 'warp drive' technology which enables space ships with humans on board to travel (in space) at speed way beyond the speed of light.
 
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Gurucam

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Here is to adding more meat to the bone of post # 11 above:

There are those (like our modern 'particle accelerating' scientists) who believe that the path to happiness and success is through 'what you see is what you get'. That is, through physicality.

They look only to things that are 'seen' and temporal. They cannot and do not look to things that are 'not seen' and eternal. That is, they perceive and believe that they can and must apply only physical means and physical devices, to accomplish their aims and desires.

They rely on physical particle accelerators, physical armies, physical weapons, etc. as their tools.

They and their unaware kind, perceive that the pyramids were built only by physical labor. They cannot perceive and/or conceive that these pyramids were built through the powers of 'faith as little as a mustard seed' which can and do move mountains.

The recently dawned and now current Spiritual age on earth will see humans using 'faith as little as a mustard seed to move mountains' and to build new pyramids.

Clearly this recently dawned Spiritual Age is not and cannot be relevant to our (our modern 'particle accelerating' scientists and their supporters and the billion or so of their like kind, who are currently on earth. They will all have to and will leave this dimension. Additionally no new people of their kind will be brought forth to earth, any more.

The Old must and will die to give way to the new.
 

Caledvwlch

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interesting read

No it isn't. The first paragraph makes an astounding and unprovable assumption, and demonstrates total ignorance of the subject matter.

Currently people (modern scientists/physicist) who are only physically aware (i.e. spiritually dead people)

Really? Upon what is this foolish assumption based? I can almost guarantee that there are Christians in the world right now who are physicists working on particle accelerators.

are seeking to use a physical approach to access a portal to a parallel dimension

Meaningless word salad.

through the quantum (spirit) reality

Here's the astounding assumption I was talking about. Why are the "spirit" and "quantum reality" the same thing? Oh, no proof whatsoever? That's what I figured.

through their creation of a supposed 'black hole'.

And here's the part that demonstrates the ignorance of the subject matter. Creating microscopic black holes is only a tiny part of what physicists hope to achieve with particle accelerators.

And that was just the first paragraph!
 

Gurucam

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doesn't this prove travel at the speed of light is not possible?

It has long been validated and accepted in, Quantum theory that the speed of light 'fastness' is limited to the three dimensional reality.

Quantum physics is the science of dimensions beyond the three dimensions of physicality (i.e. the dimensions of length, breadth, and height). In fact quantum physical is the science of dimensions well beyond the five dimensions of length, breadth, height, space and time. So is spirituality.

Spirituality is much more profound and real.

Quantum physics is an intellectual understanding and intellectual theorizing of dimensions well beyond the five dimensions of length, breadth, height, space and time. This gives rise to physically based experiment through which they seek to validate their theories.

Spirituality is the subjective awareness and subjective experiential witnessing and knowing of dimensions beyond length, breadth, height, space and time. This provides the actual knowledge of dimensions well beyond the five dimensions of length, breadth, height, space and time.

Scriptures by inspiration is achieved only by those who transcends the five dimensions of length, breadth, height, space and time. This is absolutely rooted in one traveling and going (not necessarily physically) well beyond the speed of light.

'Entanglement', 'spooky action at a distant' and 'teleportation' are concepts in Quantum Physics. These operate outside of length, breadth, height, space and time. They are all proven, known and accepted to occur in an instant, i.e. absolutely and totally immediately. That is absolutely faster than and beyond the speed of light.

The entire creation exist in a net or field which is pure consciousness. This field cannot be known or used physically. Passages in and through this field occurs instantaneously, absolutely and totally beyond the speed of light.

In fact, subjective awareness of this field enable one to witness and therefore actually know that there is no past, present, future or separation by space or place. All thing are occurring, presently, simultaneously in parallel dimensions. Nothing is ever dead, past, or future.

One who can and does function at this (consciousness and/or spirit) level can have direct, live, real time, communion with the very alive Lord Jesus at will, in any of his space time realities. This can and does happen to one, irregardless of the time and place limitation of one's physical body. One who can, is teleported to these other dimensions absolutely instantly. They can also be aware of many dimensions simultaneously.

That is they can exist in a physical body now and also actually be aware of walking, 2000 odd years ago, live and direct, in the presence of the physical and 'seen' and temporal, son of man Lord Jesus. This teleportation is absolutely instantaneous. That is, it is so absolutely instantaneous that it is actually and literally currently in the present moment. One simply have to turn one's attention to it and one is teleported timelessly, to the dimension.

The speed of light is not at all the final frontier of 'speed'. The speed of light is the 'upper limit' cap on speed that applies to the spiritually dead, i.e. the dead' in Jesus statement, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Spiritually aware people break/transcend that speed of light 'cap' routinely every moment.

 
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Gurucam

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The speed of light is not at all the final frontier of 'speed'. The speed of light is the 'upper limit' cap on speed that applies to the spiritually dead, i.e. the dead' in Jesus statement, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Spiritually aware people break/transcend that speed of light 'cap' routinely every moment.

The speed of light is the 'cap' which limits and confines the simplest dimension. This is the dimension of pure physicality. This is the world of 'spiritual dead-ness' or Satan. This dimension is described as hell.

One who can experience speeds faster that the speed of light is capable of moving to, existing in and 'living' in, higher dimensions which are described as heaven. Speed higher than the speed of light belong to other higher dimensions.

Indeed there are many 'physically bodied' destinations for physically bodied beings. Many much better and blissful than this one. The passport, visa and ticket to these higher worlds is directly determined by one's own consciousness as clouded by one's own ego.

'The sky is the limit', in fact there is absolutely no limit. Billions of worlds/dimensions exists. In fact infinite numbers of worlds exist. Every possible scenario in every and any configuration of possible worlds exist and have existed for all eternity, for one's choosing.

One (i.e. each individual) is brought forth into a world that is intricately matched to his or her own limited ideas, beliefs, needs, desires and aspirations.

If in this life time, one cannot perceive that one can have absolute freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law so as to have and enjoy every and any thing that one wants in perfect harmony with every thing else, one cannot and will not enter such a perfect heavenly dimension, now and/or when one dies and/or after one dies.

The level of your destination dimension (i.e. the level of hell or heaven) is limited only by you. Your destination is identical to the limits of your own perceptions, beliefs, interests, needs, desires, aspirations, ideals and laws. It matters not that these are conditioned into your awareness by others or that they are willingly determined by you.

If you perceive that the perceptions, beliefs, interests, needs, desires, aspirations, ideals and laws which you hold are from God and are of God. Then these particular set of perceptions, beliefs, interests, needs, desires, aspirations, ideals and laws become God for you. And you will land in a dimension where these are the rules.

If therefore you believe in and preach, the ten commandments and sin, then you will be delivered into a dimension where the ten commandments and sin are the rules. This is your next life planing. You will be forced to esteem and uphold the law or get sin (i.e. experience hell).

If on the other hand, you believe that the ten commandments are done way with, and you have God given freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the law and get no sin but instead be glorified by God, when you are led by the Spirit of the Lord Jesus, then you will be delivered to a dimension where that is the rule and the life style.

In this dimension the Spirit of the Lord Jesus will guide you. And under this guidance you will have and enjoy absolutely every, any and all freedoms, liberties and justifications without exception. And you will not get the slightest drop of sin. Instead you will be perpetually glorified by God. You will be a child of God.

There is absolute freedom, liberty and justification and also absolute magical and stress-less harmony, existing side by side, in this dimension. Don't you want this life? This is the Gift which the Lord gave to this world. In fact this is the Gift that is the Lord Jesus.

The question is what do you want? What limits do you put on yourself. With who and what do you wish to be 'entangled'?
 
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PureX

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It's sad that so many Christians think being a Christian means fearing and resenting anything that's new or different from themselves and what they know. They think that if Jesus were to walk the Earth today he'd still be wearing robes and speaking medieval English, because that's how they read of him in their Bibles. They also think he'd be proclaiming science an evil lie and that scientists are children of satan. Because again, that's what the medieval scribes that wrote their Bibles believed.

But Jesus was a thoroughly modern man of his time, and was both well informed and quite "progressive". So much so that the traditional religionists of his day considered him a heretic, and had him killed for it. He certainly was not a "conservative" philosophically, theologically, or socially. And if science had been a part of his culture, he would almost certainly have been informed and progressive regarding it, as well.

I understand and respect the conservative's desire to protect and maintain the status quo. Not every new idea is a good idea. And not every old idea needs to be updated or usurped. Many old ideas are still around because they still work. And I get that. But to become obsessed with holding onto them simply because they are old, is irrational, and Jesus was not irrational. Nor did he ever preach against progressive change. In fact, much of what he preached was a very progressive change, theologically speaking. That's certainly how the religious conservatives of his time saw it!

I think this kind of mindless antipathy with science is unChristian, and unChristlike. As is the blind insistence on taking the bible to be both literal and sacrosanct. If Jesus were standing in front of those of you who do this, today, I think he'd tell you to your face that you're nuts. Or he'd say something even worse, because he had a sharp tongue and little patience for such self-centered, ignorant, nonsense. And he'd be right, too, … yet again.
 

Gurucam

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there are only three dimensions

Indeed this is quite so and quite correct, for one who perceives that the highest or upper limit of speed is the speed of light.

Three dimensions represent length, breadth and width. This defines physicality. These are 'seen' and temporal things. This is the dimension in which the (and all) written and spoken scriptures exists. This is also the dimension of the physical, 'seen' and temporal, son of man, Lord Jesus. The written and spoken scriptures are the letter (which killeth). Only the Spirit giveth life.

Spirit (which giveth life) is beyond and outside of these three dimensions. The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, and the Holy Ghost exist beyond the three dimensions. These Spirits and the dimensions beyond the base three are 'not seen' and eternal.

To be preoccupied with the (base) three dimensions is 'to savor the things of man and not the things of God'. God is a Spirit and He exists in dimensions beyond the basic three.

Because of your preoccupation with the three dimensional reality, you cannot and would not actually know the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and/or the Holy Ghost. You would only know about them because you only read or physically hear about them. That is your information comes strictly from physical/intellectual, left side of God/left side brain interfacing.

Because of your preoccupation with the three dimensional reality, you cannot and would not know them intuitively and experiential-ly. You would not know them through right side of God or right side brain interfacing. This means that you cannot and would not actually know them, nor can you be known to them. Therefore the Lord Jesus cannot and would not know you and He cannot and would not confess you to God.

If you desire to enter and live in God's kingdom of heaven, you are in a seriously sad predicament. You might think that Peter & Co. could help you. They absolutely cannot.

Thinking outside the box means going outside of the three dimensional reality and into spirit and other dimensions. There one experiences a different and more expanded reality and so bring back far more profound wisdom and solutions. You must have this skill in order to access, enter and live in God's kingdom of heaven.

You seem held in a strong strangle hold of a 'religion'. However there are millions of people who are not in any formal religious or spiritual traditions and these people are more advance than you, in many things pertaining to God, religion and spirituality.

Your predicament is strictly of your own doing. You have allowed your religious tradition (probably your blind loyalty to Peter & Co.) to put serious debilitating limits on your own potentially unbounded awareness.
 
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dialm

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Gurucam,

What about Black Hole?

Do you think it possible that Roman Catholic Church absorbs all particular particles? Even light? And all it leaves is darkness?

And the Pope is the center of Roman universal?
 
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