Not exactly. Only the person wronged can offer forgiveness.
Random Catholics cannot insert themselves into the process of forgiveness.
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Random Catholics cannot insert themselves into the process of forgiveness.
"To thee only have I sinned, and have done evil before thee: that thou mayst be justified in thy words and mayst overcome when thou art judged" (Psalms 50:6 (chapter 51, I presume, in modern editions)).
Catholics don't confess to a priest insofar as that priest is Fr. Joe or Fr. Bob. They confess to that priest insofar as he is alter Christus (another Christ) and acts in persona Christi (in the person of Jesus).
My sins are literally none of the priest's business insofar as he is such and such a guy. My sins are God's business. That is why there is a seal of confession. The priest can't disclose the sins of the penitents because they weren't disclosed to him. They were disclosed to God through him.
God alone forgives. There is mercy only through Jesus. It is Jesus who acts in the sacraments of the Catholic Church. The priest does not forgive because of his own authority. It is Jesus who forgives through him.
That's too nice. We need to grind our heels into these women's faces until they bleed to death!
republicanchick
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Then why did Jesus say what he said about forgiveness?
Which is easier to say (he said)
Your sins are forgiven
or Pick up your mat and walk
Words are easy... Even if you don't believe priests can forgive, you have to agree that just hearing those words I ABSOLVE YOU IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT.. from a fellow sinful human... are at best harmless
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Cruciform
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In general, Paul is referring specifically to himself and the other apostles. A few aspects of what Paul attributes to the apostles also applies to all believers in general, though not his description of the apostles as "ambassadors for Christ" who entreat "you" lay believers "not to receive the grace of God in vain." Sorry, you thought you really had something there, didn't you.
Given the above, looks like you need to do exactly that with your man-made sectarian traditions of men.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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Cruciform
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Yes, Christ chose Paul to be an apostle. Christ also appointed Peter as head of the apostles, and as the earthly Shepherd of Christ's flock [source].
ok doser
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How kind of him to offer what Jesus Christ already offers. The pope cant save anyone, but Jesus Christ can.
heir
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NOPE! All who are saved are included. Get saved and speak thou the things which become sound doctrine!
i once had a teacher who always said - generally. generally speaking it's NO GOOD -
atrol:
Christian hubris.
More specifically, have you ever read The Scarlet Letter..... perhaps the Salem Witch Trails?
Christianity and femineity hold such a storied history. :rain:
What's your evidence for this other than your own assertion that it's true?
Cruciform
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Already answered (Post #25).
It's a quote from Secret of the Rosary by St. Louis Marie de Montfort. It basically says the same thing that St. Alphonsus Ligouri does:
"But I, seeing the necessity of prayer, say, that the great lesson which all spiritual books should inculcate on their readers, all preachers on their hearers, and all confessors on their penitents, is this, to pray always; thus they should admonish them to pray; pray, and never give up praying. If you pray, you will be certainly saved; if you do not pray, you will be certainly damned" (Conclusion to a Short Treatise on Prayer).
And ultimately, it's the same thing that Jesus tells us:
"And I say to you, Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you. [10] For every one that asketh, receiveth; and he that seeketh, findeth; and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened" (Luke 11:9-10).
Even when I say, as does St. Louis Marie de Montfort, "to Jesus through Mary," I say nothing of which the gospels do not give us a clear illustration and example.
The rosary consists of two parts: 1. meditation on Jesus and Mary and 2. prayers to Jesus and Mary.
Does the rosary, as such, have the power to save? Considered in itself, no: meditation and prayer are human acts, and human beings do not have the power to save. Considered, however, on the part of Him who is being contemplated and Him to whom prayer is being made?
I leave this matter to your contemplation.
At any rate, consider the promises, benefits and blessings of the Rosary.
I place my hopes especially in this one:
"It gives us victory over all our enemies."
Cedarbay
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My heart actually aches to read these words from you, Traditio.
You have equated praying the rosary to praying to the Holy Trinity.
Is this truly what you are saying?
The only reason you would have difficulty with this is because you don't understand it.
Why don't you familiarize yourself with how to pray the Rosary?
Gloria patri et filio at spiritui sancto. Sicut in principio et nunc et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.