Bladerunner
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Below you said you believe the prophecies of Daniel. the biggest question is: when to they begin. we know that in Dan 9:25.."Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times." I have come to believe that this time is with Nehemiah 2:1.."And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king........" Here we have the month and year when it all started. A prophecy fulfilled. 483 weeks of years that turn into after adjustments for leap years (extra lunar days, etc.) 173,880 days until day that Jesus rode into Jerusalem, April 6, 32 AD on a faithful Sunday.
Great to hear about Daniel's prophecies. I accept your rejection of 32 AD.
God gave them that time in Genesis, Evening and the Morning....24 hours divided into two parts...The Romans used this timing in a little different form of 6 hours four times per day. For at midnight, "the thief in the night" would come calling and every soldier that was asleep on their watch would simple disappear, not to be seen or heard again.. Death came upon them...
with one exception I agree...
Since the calculations of 173,880 days landed the day Jesus rode into Jerusalem with the 6 days before His Crucifixion at Bethany (in scripture), the 13th was Wednesday and Passover was that evening.14th. that next day was preparation for Thursday High Sabbath. Feast of Unleavened Bread.
I know, but you ask and I explained my position as I believe that His Church is 'one body full of Jews and Gentile believers' over the thousands of years began in Acts 2. long before Paul showed up but shortly after the ascension of Jesus.
It lines up perfectly with the 4 BC birth including the death of Herod. This is another conversation. where the dates of the Bible and others play a big part in determining His actual birthday.
again, we disagree.!
YES, From Sunday evening back to Bethany and back to Jerusalem on Monday, etc....the third day, rem 6 days to His death from Bethany...the 8th on Friday. Rem, Passover meal was eaten after the crucifixion and during the first three or so hours of the 14th. Wednesday Evening which was considered to be Thursday. YEAH--we agree on something. lol
Did He not do that on the 3rd day (Tuesday-12th)..Biblically, I am pretty sure He did.
No, they just fit perfectly, Biblically and Historically.
On Tuesday, did He not tell them to make ready for the Passover meal. He already had it set up according to scriptures.
You are right.Wednesday was the 13th with Sunday being the 10th...Jesus died that day and the Passover Meal was that evening 14th Nisan. You got it right, except you keep trying to make Wednesday into Thursday or something?
All Mat and all the others as well is telling us that Mary discovered the tomb empty about the time the angel rolled back the stone..Jesus had received His new transfigured body and would have been able to be outside of the tomb minutes after 6pm the evening before. Rem, the event of His appearing in the upper room..No He did not walk through the room, He actually appeared.
Again, the scriptures are speaking of the timing of Mary's and company arrival at the tomb and their conversations before arriving on how to remove the stone.
Both of the above scriptures tell the same story but each has a little different context. Yet, they are all speaking of Mary and company arriving at the tomb at sunrise or considered 6 AM.
ok, Mar 16:9 "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week....."
When did the first day of the week happen. at 6pm last evening. It does not say morning, early in the day..and the day began at 6pm last evening...We surely are not arguing about the time He arose for it matters not.. whether it was 2 minutes after 6pm or 15 minutes before 6AM, He arose for us. Amen
ok, it is simply the way I read it, my hermeneutics.
No, have look and researched the Thursday and Friday's scenarios and they simply do not fit with God's WORD..I would have to change something...the way I have laid it out, I have not changed anything.
I have truly given you what I believe to be true. I have been researching a Bible dating based upon the 50th year (Jubilee)from the first year of Adam to 2025 (AM Dating) and then backwards (AD to BC) from 2025 to the 1st year of Adam for the last 4 years. One runs into a lot of different information both biblically and historically. Each has to be dealt with, studied, compared with other beliefs. There are many opinions/beliefs for example about dating of the fall of Judah (the 1st time) by Nebuchadnezzar. Which is true and which fits with the Bible, God's Word. Am I stubborn, Yes because I believe that Jesus has provided the answer to all questions concerning His WORD..and He certainly knows everything that has, is and will be argued about His Word.?
I do disagree with you but I am not going to trash your beliefs because I believe something else. You and the Good Lord will have to come to that arrangement and His Will will be done in His own time. By the way, has it occurred to you that we are having these discussions for a reason not known at this time. You see, I believe that He has brought us together at this time and place for reasons only He knows and will share in His own time...
How about you. why do you not see the way I have outlined His Crucifixion and Resurrection.?
thanks for the conversation and may the Blessing of God be upon you and yours this new day.
