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Why don't you include Firstfruits? Also the book of Hebrews indicates the Day of Atonement's been fulfilled as well. So that's five down. Two more to go. Or?
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Why don't you include Firstfruits? Also the book of Hebrews indicates the Day of Atonement's been fulfilled as well. So that's five down. Two more to go. Or?
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Sounds like the day the Temple was destroyed and the Old Covenant was raptured from the Earth.
Trumpets.
Revelation might have been written in AD 70. The Day of the LORD.
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You had to eat the Passover. To participate in the Passover you had to eat the Passover. Only so many people could actually kill the lamb and impose its blood above the door. But everybody eats.
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Orthodox Jews do not constitute a large part or 2/3 of them. Orthodox Jews are the ones who watched as God removed or raptured the Old Covenant away from the Earth all at once by the hand of the Roman general Titus and his forces in precisely AD 70. But they just decide to do their best to obey the Old Covenant law anyway, even though it's over, and everybody knows it's over. Titus made sure it was over. One Roman emperor got it in his mind to rebuild a 4th temple in Jerusalem, but his plan was thwarted.
From the Ascension to Titus, the Apostles both evangelized Gentiles, and taught the House of Israel the New Covenant. They didn't know when the Day of the Lord was coming, and both Peter and Paul were murdered, assassinated, executed, put to death, before. Neither of them saw it, but John did.
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Paul told the Gentile church in Corinth Christ is our Passover, and to keep the feast.
Just like Corinth and Gentile morality was as linked together as they could possibly be. It was known for prostitution, and that's saying something in the Apostolic era, because all the cities were known for prostitution, compared to anywhere else. Corinth was known for prostitution, even among cities known for prostitution.
Passover, Unleavened Bread, and Firstfruits. Then Day of Atonement because Hebrews says it was when He entered Heaven, and then 10 days later Pentecost. Just leaves Tabernacles and Trumpets.
18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you. 20 Therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper. 21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.
At least you admit is a feast. And symbolic of what was to happen. Do you know the audience?
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.
1. Passover (fulfilled)
2. Unleavened Bread (fulfilled)
3. First Fruits (fulfilled)
4. Pentecost (fulfilled)
5. Trumpets (future)
6. Day of Atonement (future)
7. Tabernacles (future)
STP's original chart, from the scripture.
Romans 11
25: For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
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Of course. To a person like you, it's sounds like whatever you want it to sound like.
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It's interesting to note that all of the fulfilled feasts are in the Spring and all of the yet to be fulfilled ones are in the Fall.
Paul was not commanding his followers to perform the rituals of the Jewish Passover feast. That would contradict his entire ministry.
To be clear, my comments were confined to the rituals of Passover, not the symbolism of it. We who are in Christ partake of the substance all day every day. In Him we are the Passover and as such we ought have no fellowship with wickedness. The application of what Paul is teaching there is given in the verses immediately preceding and following the passage you pluck out of its context....
I Corinthians 5:1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.
The Corinthians were Gentiles!
Silliness. Who teaches you this vapid crap?
It wasn't Corinth that Paul is talking to or about. Paul was talking about Corinthians who were "named a brother" (Verse 11). Paul wasn't worried about "the sexually immoral people of this world" in this letter but about how the church at Corinth was letting this "leaven" into their congregation and tolerating it.
With this, I have no major argument. There are details, however...
When the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, God will turn back again to Israel (Romans 11:25-26) and fulfill Daniel's 70th week which includes Christ fulfilling Tabernacles, Trumpets and the Day of Atonement.
Yes, to some degree Christ has already fulfilled both Tabernacles and Atonement but there will be a further and fuller fulfillment. John 1 teaches that God became flesh and dwelt among us. The word "dwelt" there is not the normal word for dwelling. It is "tabernacled". John was clearly making reference to the Feast, but Christ is not just the fulfillment of the feast, He is the thing the feast was always pointing to, first in His incarnation, and ultimately in His permanent dwelling with His people.
Revelations 21:3 Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men…
The Day of Atonement has been entirely fulfilled in terms of redemption. That work is quite finished and nothing can be added to it. The only sense in which there is a fuller fulfillment of the Feast is when Israel accepts Christ as their King and is thus redeemed as a nation.One final point. These Feasts were all given to Israel as a part of the law and they are also all prophesies. This places them firmly within the purview and ministry of the previous dispensation. Paul's gospel of grace was not prophesied but was instead "hidden from ages and from generations" (Colossians 1:26) and “not made known to the sons of men in other ages” (Ephesians 3:5). This is the sense in which I stated before and restate here that Passover observance hasn't anything to do with Paul's gospel. They are symbols of the substance we now enjoy, nothing more, which your Catholic doctrine directly and explicitly contradicts and outright denies. We are not to return to the beggarly things of the law...
Galatians 4: 9 But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.
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