The Late Great Urantia Revelation

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Caino

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VII. THE SUPREME BEING


0:7.1 The Deity mechanism of the master universe is twofold as concerns eternity relationships. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit are eternal—are existential beings—while God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and God the Absolute are actualizing Deity personalities of the post-Havona epochs in the time-space and the time-space-transcended spheres of master universe evolutionary expansion. These actualizing Deity personalities are future eternals from the time when, and as, they power-personalize in the growing universes by the technique of the experiential actualization of the associative-creative potentials of the eternal Paradise Deities.

0:7.2 Deity is, therefore, dual in presence:

1. Existential—beings of eternal existence, past, present, and future.
2. Experiential—beings actualizing in the post-Havona present but of unending existence throughout all future eternity.

0:7.5 The Father, Son, and Spirit are existential—existential in actuality (though all potentials are supposedly experiential). The Supreme and the Ultimate are wholly experiential. The Deity Absolute is experiential in actualization but existential in potentiality. The essence of Deity is eternal, but only the three original persons of Deity are unqualifiedly eternal. All other Deity personalities have an origin, but they are eternal in destiny.

0:7.6 Having achieved existential Deity expression of himself in the Son and the Spirit, the Father is now achieving experiential expression on hitherto impersonal and unrevealed deity levels as God the Supreme, God the Ultimate, and God the Absolute; but these experiential Deities are not now fully existent; they are in process of actualization.

0:7.7 God the Supreme in Havona is the personal spirit reflection of the triune Paradise Deity. This associative Deity relationship is now creatively expanding outward in God the Sevenfold and is synthesizing in the experiential power of the Almighty Supreme in the grand universe. Paradise Deity, existential as three persons, is thus experientially evolving in two phases of Supremacy, while these dual phases are power-personality unifying as one Lord, the Supreme Being.

0:7.8 The Universal Father achieves freewill liberation from the bonds of infinity and the fetters of eternity by the technique of trinitization, threefold Deity personalization. The Supreme Being is even now evolving as a subeternal personality unification of the sevenfold manifestation of Deity in the time-space segments of the grand universe.

0:7.9 The Supreme Being is not a direct creator, except that he is the father of Majeston, but he is a synthetic co-ordinator of all creature-Creator universe activities. The Supreme Being, now actualizing in the evolutionary universes, is the Deity correlator and synthesizer of time-space divinity, of triune Paradise Deity in experiential association with the Supreme Creators of time and space. When finally actualized, this evolutionary Deity will constitute the eternal fusion of the finite and the infinite—the everlasting and indissoluble union of experiential power and spirit personality.

0:7.10 All time-space finite reality, under the directive urge of the evolving Supreme Being, is engaged in an ever- ascending mobilization and perfecting unification (power-personality synthesis) of all phases and values of finite reality, in association with varied phases of Paradise reality, to the end and for the purpose of subsequently embarking upon the attempt to reach absonite levels of supercreature attainment.
 

freelight

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The evolving Supreme Being in its expanding total.......

The evolving Supreme Being in its expanding total.......

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Hi Caino and any following,

Would like to engage in dialogue/discusison on any points in the text, and will do so when I have time. The UB's concept of 'The Supreme Being', 'The Almighty Supreme' and 'God The Supreme' are pretty awesome and include Deity's involvement within the evolutional expansion of creation whereby the Creator and Creation both inter-merge (evolve, unfold and develop) as a collective, whereby all potentials and possibilities of the Creator within the Creation and all evolving mortals are facilitated, experientialized and enhanced. The Supreme Being then represents the Infinite Deity in its engagement with space-time-creation, and includes all potential and actualized reality in toto.

Your last post on 'The Supreme Being' is from the Forward, but each of these aspects of Deity are linked above in the respective papers, for expanded study. Are you engaged in some study on this subject currently, and any particulars you'd like to expound upon?
 

Caino

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"The great mistake of the Hebrew religion was its failure to associate the goodness of God with the factual truths of science and the appealing beauty of art. As civilization progressed, and since religion continued to pursue the same unwise course of overemphasizing the goodness of God to the relative exclusion of truth and neglect of beauty, there developed an increasing tendency for certain types of men to turn away from the abstract and dissociated concept of isolated goodness. The overstressed and isolated morality of modern religion, which fails to hold the devotion and loyalty of many twentieth-century men, would rehabilitate itself if, in addition to its moral mandates, it would give equal consideration to the truths of science, philosophy, and spiritual experience, and to the beauties of the physical creation, the charm of intellectual art, and the grandeur of genuine character achievement.

2:7.10 The religious challenge of this age is to those farseeing and forward-looking men and women of spiritual insight who will dare to construct a new and appealing philosophy of living out of the enlarged and exquisitely integrated modern concepts of cosmic truth, universe beauty, and divine goodness. Such a new and righteous vision of morality will attract all that is good in the mind of man and challenge that which is best in the human soul. Truth, beauty, and goodness are divine realities, and as man ascends the scale of spiritual living, these supreme qualities of the Eternal become increasingly co-ordinated and unified in God, who is love."
UB 1955
 

freelight

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a trinity of qualities......

a trinity of qualities......

"The great mistake of the Hebrew religion was its failure to associate the goodness of God with the factual truths of science and the appealing beauty of art. As civilization progressed, and since religion continued to pursue the same unwise course of overemphasizing the goodness of God to the relative exclusion of truth and neglect of beauty, there developed an increasing tendency for certain types of men to turn away from the abstract and dissociated concept of isolated goodness. The overstressed and isolated morality of modern religion, which fails to hold the devotion and loyalty of many twentieth-century men, would rehabilitate itself if, in addition to its moral mandates, it would give equal consideration to the truths of science, philosophy, and spiritual experience, and to the beauties of the physical creation, the charm of intellectual art, and the grandeur of genuine character achievement.

2:7.10 The religious challenge of this age is to those farseeing and forward-looking men and women of spiritual insight who will dare to construct a new and appealing philosophy of living out of the enlarged and exquisitely integrated modern concepts of cosmic truth, universe beauty, and divine goodness. Such a new and righteous vision of morality will attract all that is good in the mind of man and challenge that which is best in the human soul. Truth, beauty, and goodness are divine realities, and as man ascends the scale of spiritual living, these supreme qualities of the Eternal become increasingly co-ordinated and unified in God, who is love."
UB 1955

Yes, a synthesis of the qualities of goodness, truth and beauty are integral to a true and living religion, a more holistic theology.


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I believe 'art' is a part of this integrative expression of Spirit, and may express thru visual art, spoken word, dance, music, sculptures and other abstract forms, as well as in literature. Do you have any thoughts of other ways Spirit may inspire souls to facilitate goodness, truth and beauty in their daily lives?
 

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Yes, a synthesis of the qualities of goodness, truth and beauty are integral to a true and living religion, a more holistic theology.


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I believe 'art' is a part of this integrative expression of Spirit, and may express thru visual art, spoken word, dance, music, sculptures and other abstract forms, as well as in literature. Do you have any thoughts of other ways Spirit may inspire souls to facilitate goodness, truth and beauty in their daily lives?

"The creation of new pictures out of old facts, the restatement of parental life in the lives of offspring—these are the artistic triumphs of truth."
 

Zeke

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Luke 24
He was looking forward to His cross, His tomb, and His resurrection all along.

All inward and none observable to the mind transfixed on this worlds theatrics Luke 17:20-21. That's the only kingdom being implicated in the allegorical scriptures Galatians 4:24, you have outwardly been taught to apply among the multitudes (fractals of your I AM) believing in "two powers" one good one evil when both come from the same mental stage of dualism where we can judge others when it's your own reflection in the religious house of mirrors, unknowingly you are judging yourself a paradox in times hourglass that plays hide and seek in our divided mind (persona, person, fictionalized characters) which is a type of blindness/slavery the veil we see through darkly when believing in two powers that run this fictional dream world Galatians 4:1. Putting on the mind of Christ isn't Theological, Religious or channeled stories that are still "time based" (Matthew 23:13, pre cross statement) its something you have already yet oblivious to it's presence Ephesians 5:14, Matthew 3:2, and always has been, no human sacrifice which is classic Baal worship will tear that duality/veil/sleep, it must take place inwardly the realm where there is no beginning or end that only takes place in times grand illusionary special effects!

Row, row, row your boat Gently down the stream, Merrily merrily, merrily, merrily Life is but a dream floating or sinking by judgment Romans 2:1-4, and the courtroom is in us Romans 2:28-29, Jew being a typology like Gentile going on in our dual mind, 2 Corinthians 3:6-16.

Jesus was they way shower the power that arose awakened was Christ in him Romans 8:11, the I AM in everyone, the mystery we can't know while asleep in Jew and Gentile, Male and Female separation they don't exist in Christ Colossians 1:27.
 

freelight

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Birth, death, rebirth.........................

Birth, death, rebirth.........................

All inward and none observable to the mind transfixed on this worlds theatrics Luke 17:20-21. That's the only kingdom being implicated in the allegorical scriptures Galatians 4:24, you have outwardly been taught to apply among the multitudes (fractals of your I AM) believing in "two powers" one good one evil when both come from the same mental stage of dualism where we can judge others when it's your own reflection in the religious house of mirrors, unknowingly you are judging yourself a paradox in times hourglass that plays hide and seek in our divided mind (persona, person, fictionalized characters) which is a type of blindness/slavery the veil we see through darkly when believing in two powers that run this fictional dream world Galatians 4:1. Putting on the mind of Christ isn't Theological, Religious or channeled stories that are still "time based" (Matthew 23:13, pre cross statement) its something you have already yet oblivious to it's presence Ephesians 5:14, Matthew 3:2, and always has been, no human sacrifice which is classic Baal worship will tear that duality/veil/sleep, it must take place inwardly the realm where there is no beginning or end that only takes place in times grand illusionary special effects!

Row, row, row your boat Gently down the stream, Merrily merrily, merrily, merrily Life is but a dream floating or sinking by judgment Romans 2:1-4, and the courtroom is in us Romans 2:28-29, Jew being a typology like Gentile going on in our dual mind, 2 Corinthians 3:6-16.

Jesus was they way shower the power that arose awakened was Christ in him Romans 8:11, the I AM in everyone, the mystery we can't know while asleep in Jew and Gentile, Male and Female separation they don't exist in Christ Colossians 1:27.

Hi zeke,

I addressed one who referred to you as a 'Urantia loon' in another thread here and will not let that kind of marginalizing or name-callling be gotten away with, not while freelight is around, and hope you'd stand for justice for all as well :thumb:

The truth that exists in the heart of the 'I AM' is the one that exists in all conscious beings, because a fragment of the infinite 'I AM' abides in all, - in UB nomenclature that is our TA (Thought Adjuster)and there at least 5 particular papers that deal with the thought-adjusters relationship with the soul of man, an interesting read.

See:

107. Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters - Solitary Messenger
108. Mission and Ministry of Thought Adjusters - Solitary Messenger
109. Relation of Adjusters to Universe Creatures - Solitary Messenger
110. Relation of Adjusters to Individual Mortals - Solitary Messenger
111. The Adjuster and the Soul - Solitary Messenger

In any case, yes....all that exists is an expression, extension, manifestation of source-energy and consciousness (The Universal Father who is the First Source and Center of all things and beings), even as life manifests in the realms of both light and darkness, existence and negation, inspiration and expiration, since all is arising in the efflugence of the infinite ONE (or infinity itself).....via birth, death and rebirth,......so go the cosmic cycles.


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Zeke

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Hi zeke,

I addressed one who referred to you as a 'Urantia loon' in another thread here and will not let that kind of marginalizing or name-callling be gotten away with, not while freelight is around, and hope you'd stand for justice for all as well :thumb:

The truth that exists in the heart of the 'I AM' is the one that exists in all conscious beings, because a fragment of the infinite 'I AM' abides in all, - in UB nomenclature that is our TA (Thought Adjuster)and there at least 5 particular papers that deal with the thought-adjusters relationship with the soul of man, an interesting read.

See:

107. Origin and Nature of Thought Adjusters - Solitary Messenger
108. Mission and Ministry of Thought Adjusters - Solitary Messenger
109. Relation of Adjusters to Universe Creatures - Solitary Messenger
110. Relation of Adjusters to Individual Mortals - Solitary Messenger
111. The Adjuster and the Soul - Solitary Messenger

In any case, yes....all that exists is an expression, extension, manifestation of source-energy and consciousness (The Universal Father who is the First Source and Center of all things and beings), even as life manifests in the realms of both light and darkness, existence and negation, inspiration and expiration, since all is arising in the efflugence of the infinite ONE (or infinity itself).....via birth, death and rebirth,......so go the cosmic cycles.


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Thanks, you know a thick armor is mandatory if you enter this carnivorous mentality.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Wow. I’ve been away from TOL for well over a year, and still nobody has called the white coats in for you nutjobs on these threads. But most of the alleged professing “Christians” on TOL are not much different than you guys, so I guess this is the appropriate place for all of you to be.
 

freelight

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From one nut to another.......

From one nut to another.......

Wow. I’ve been away from TOL for well over a year, and still nobody has called the white coats in for you nutjobs on these threads. But most of the alleged professing “Christians” on TOL are not much different than you guys, so I guess this is the appropriate place for all of you to be.

Plenty of 'nutjobs' in your field and catagory of 'Christianity' as well, besides dozens of different denominations and 'versions' of Jesus, so I'd be careful before pointing the finger since you'd find yourself in a hall of mirrors.

Remember, plenty of people thought Jesus was nuts.



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Caino

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Wow. I’ve been away from TOL for well over a year, and still nobody has called the white coats in for you nutjobs on these threads. But most of the alleged professing “Christians” on TOL are not much different than you guys, so I guess this is the appropriate place for all of you to be.



What did Caiaphas do on a years vacation? Reenactments of OT atrocities blamed on God???
 

Zeke

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Wow. I’ve been away from TOL for well over a year, and still nobody has called the white coats in for you nutjobs on these threads. But most of the alleged professing “Christians” on TOL are not much different than you guys, so I guess this is the appropriate place for all of you to be.

Still reflecting the world as you see it? Don't take so much thought about how things appear to be so inferior or marred with imperfections compared to your self assumptions of your own purity, a sign dualism is still your main source of appraisal, all things being one in Christ in you is still a work in progress in everyone still being perfected, a gauge to show us how much of the two power dream where still slumbering in, true Christianity knows all appearances are just mask that conceal the one power behind them, your beliefs through thoughts empower dualism's separatist theologies dialectic, based on appearances seen! As good and evil, especially historical literalism the adulteration of symbolically that keeps one in that loop of judgments addictive programming.

Or stay in sophisticated adultery.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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What did Caiaphas do on a years vacation? Reenactments of OT atrocities blamed on God???

You can ask him one day in the afterlife, I suppose; since you’ll both be in the enopion presence of God rather than the prosopon of Christ.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, that was a barb jabbed at me. LOL. Nice try, lobotomized one. There were no OT atrocities attributable to God. He is blameless in His righteous judgment. (But you, of course, would know nothing of the one true and living God. Only your thought-adjusted delusions of nothingness, as always.)
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Plenty of 'nutjobs' in your field and catagory of 'Christianity' as well, besides dozens of different denominations and 'versions' of Jesus, so I'd be careful before pointing the finger since you'd find yourself in a hall of mirrors.

Remember, plenty of people thought Jesus was nuts.



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No hall of mirrors for me. I know the absolute, objective, singular, central, and knowable revealed truth. And it ain’t the drivel you’ve imbibed and built a false existence and corrupted epistemics upon.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Still reflecting the world as you see it?

Nope. Just not falsely allegorizing it as you do in total delusional pride, etc.

[quote}Don't take so much thought about how things appear to be so inferior or marred with imperfections compared to your self assumptions of your own purity, a sign dualism is still your main source of appraisal,[/quote]

LOL. No Dualism for me. At least not anything remotely in the manner in which you address the topic.

There’s a historical dualism, but it’s all Prolepsis. That’s partly what you’re trying to say, but you simpl have no clue. The intangible is superordinate to the tangible. I don’t live at all like you presume. But you’re so far gone, you can’t even distinguish anything from your false dichotomies and binaries, etc.


all things being one in Christ in you is still a work in progress in everyone still being perfected, a gauge to show us how much of the two power dream where still slumbering in, true Christianity knows all appearances are just mask that conceal the one power behind them, your beliefs through thoughts empower dualism's separatist theologies dialectic, based on appearances seen! As good and evil, especially historical literalism the adulteration of symbolically that keeps one in that loop of judgments addictive programming.

Or stay in sophisticated adultery.

I’m not a symbolist at all. Not AT ALL. I don’t live in any form of the adultery to which you refer.

You see... I understand everything you’re trying to say. You understand nothing I could ever say. It’s you that’s lost in false dualism and its (alleged) dialectic (which is actually just an echo of your own).
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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Anywho... You guys just keep on truckin’ your way into nothingness, thinking it’s some kind of ascension to divinity and beyond, or whatever. Waste your precious lives on the vacuum of pure self-deceit. I have no issues with you doing so. Proceed. Your demise still awaits, and it won’t be at all what you think.

Cheeri-oh, boys.
 

Caino

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You can ask him one day in the afterlife, I suppose; since you’ll both be in the enopion presence of God rather than the prosopon of Christ.

Ohhhhhhhhhh, that was a barb jabbed at me. LOL. Nice try, lobotomized one. There were no OT atrocities attributable to God. He is blameless in His righteous judgment. (But you, of course, would know nothing of the one true and living God. Only your thought-adjusted delusions of nothingness, as always.)

The wildly exaggerated history of the ethno state of the Israelites known as the Old Testament, reflects a God created largely in their own image. They had a similar kind of bloated religious ego as you do which was "dinged" by Nebuchadnezzar. So in reaction to loosing the temple and their Nation, the Hebrew redactors converted an ordinary secular history into a miraculous fiction. They destroyed every secular book they could find however left mention of them in their new fictional children's books.


We now know why the OT books are so full of edits and errors.
 

Caino

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HEBREW HISTORY

97:9.1 There never were twelve tribes of the Israelite—only three or four tribes settled in Palestine. The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. "And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites." The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests' record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.

97:9.2 The Israelitish consciousness took origin in the hill country of Ephraim; the later Jewish consciousness originated in the southern clan of Judah. The Jews (Judahites) always sought to defame and blacken the record of the northern Israelite (Ephraimites).

97:9.3 Pretentious Hebrew history begins with Saul's rallying the northern clans to withstand an attack by the Ammonites upon their fellow tribesmen—the Gileadites—east of the Jordan. With an army of a little more than three thousand he defeated the enemy, and it was this exploit that led the hill tribes to make him king. When the exiled priests rewrote this story, they raised Saul's army to 330,000 and added "Judah" to the list of tribes participating in the battle.

97:9.4 Immediately following the defeat of the Ammonites, Saul was made king by popular election by his troops. No priest or prophet participated in this affair. But the priests later on put it in the record that Saul was crowned king by the prophet Samuel in accordance with divine directions. This they did in order to establish a "divine line of descent" for David's Judahite kingship.

97:9.5 The greatest of all distortions of Jewish history had to do with David. After Saul's victory over the Ammonites (which he ascribed to Yahweh) the Philistines became alarmed and began attacks on the northern clans. David and Saul never could agree. David with six hundred men entered into a Philistine alliance and marched up the coast to Esdraelon. At Gath the Philistines ordered David off the field; they feared he might go over to Saul. David retired; the Philistines attacked and defeated Saul. They could not have done this had David been loyal to Israel. David's army was a polyglot assortment of malcontents, being for the most part made up of social misfits and fugitives from justice.

97:9.6 Saul's tragic defeat at Gilboa by the Philistines brought Yahweh to a low point among the gods in the eyes of the surrounding Canaanites. Ordinarily, Saul's defeat would have been ascribed to apostasy from Yahweh, but this time the Judahite editors attributed it to ritual errors. They required the tradition of Saul and Samuel as a background for the kingship of David.

97:9.7 David with his small army made his headquarters at the non-Hebrew city of Hebron. Presently his compatriots proclaimed him king of the new kingdom of Judah. Judah was made up mostly of non-Hebrew elements— Kenites, Calebites, Jebusites, and other Canaanites. They were nomads—herders—and so were devoted to the Hebrew idea of land ownership. They held the ideologies of the desert clans.

David's Valiant Men by James Tissot 97:9.8 The difference between sacred and profane history is well illustrated by the two differing stories concerning making David king as they are found in the Old Testament. A part of the secular story of how his immediate followers (his army) made him king was inadvertently left in the record by the priests who subsequently prepared the lengthy and prosaic account of the sacred history wherein is depicted how the prophet Samuel, by divine direction, selected David from among his brethren and proceeded formally and by elaborate and solemn ceremonies to anoint him king over the Hebrews and then to proclaim him Saul's successor.

97:9.9 So many times did the priests, after preparing their fictitious narratives of God's miraculous dealings with Israel, fail fully to delete the plain and matter-of-fact statements which already rested in the records.

97:9.10 David sought to build himself up politically by first marrying Saul's daughter, then the widow of Nabal the rich Edomite, and then the daughter of Talmai, the king of Geshur. He took six wives from the women of Jebus, not to mention Bathsheba, the wife of the Hittite.

97:9.11 And it was by such methods and out of such people that David built up the fiction of a divine kingdom of Judah as the successor of the heritage and traditions of the vanishing northern kingdom of Ephraimite Israel. David's cosmopolitan tribe of Judah was more gentile than Jewish; nevertheless the oppressed elders of Ephraim came down and "anointed him king of Israel." After a military threat, David then made a compact with the Jebusites and established his capital of the united kingdom at Jebus ( Jerusalem ), which was a strong-walled city midway between Judah and Israel. The Philistines were aroused and soon attacked David. After a fierce battle they were defeated, and once more Yahweh was established as "The Lord God of Hosts."

97:9.12 But Yahweh must, perforce, share some of this glory with the Canaanite gods, for the bulk of David's army was non-Hebrew. And so there appears in your record (overlooked by the Judahite editors) this telltale statement: "Yahweh has broken my enemies before me. Therefore he called the name of the place Baal-Perazim." And they did this because eighty per cent of David's soldiers were Baalites.

97:9.13 David explained Saul's defeat at Gilboa by pointing out that Saul had attacked a Canaanite city, Gibeon, whose people had a peace treaty with the Ephraimites. Because of this, Yahweh forsook him. Even in Saul's time David had defended the Canaanite city of Keilah against the Philistines, and then he located his capital in a Canaanite city. In keeping with the policy of compromise with the Canaanites, David turned seven of Saul's descendants over to the Gibeonites to be hanged.

97:9.14 After the defeat of the Philistines, David gained possession of the "ark of Yahweh," brought it to Jerusalem, and made the worship of Yahweh official for his kingdom. He next laid heavy tribute on the neighboring tribes—the Edomites, Moabites, Ammonites, and Syrians.

97:9.15 David's corrupt political machine began to get personal possession of land in the north in violation of the Hebrew mores and presently gained control of the caravan tariffs formerly collected by the Philistines. And then came a series of atrocities climaxed by the murder of Uriah. All judicial appeals were adjudicated at Jerusalem; no longer could "the elders" mete out justice. No wonder rebellion broke out. Today, Absalom might be called a demagogue; his mother was a Canaanite. There were a half dozen contenders for the throne besides the son of Bathsheba—Solomon.

97:9.16 After David's death Solomon purged the political machine of all northern influences but continued all of the tyranny and taxation of his father's regime. Solomon bankrupted the nation by his lavish court and by his elaborate building program: There was the house of Lebanon, the palace of Pharaoh's daughter, the temple of Yahweh, the king's palace, and the restoration of the walls of many cities. Solomon created a vast Hebrew navy, operated by Syrian sailors and trading with all the world. His harem numbered almost one thousand.

97:9.17 By this time Yahweh's temple at Shiloh was discredited, and all the worship of the nation was centered at Jebus in the gorgeous royal chapel. The northern kingdom returned more to the worship of Elohim. They enjoyed the favor of the Pharaohs, who later enslaved Judah, putting the southern kingdom under tribute.

97:9.18 There were ups and downs—wars between Israel and Judah. After four years of civil war and three dynasties, Israel fell under the rule of city despots who began to trade in land. Even King Omri attempted to buy Shemer's estate. But the end drew on apace when Shalmaneser III decided to control the Mediterranean coast. King Ahab of Ephraim gathered ten other groups and resisted at Karkar; the battle was a draw. The Assyrian was stopped but the allies were decimated. This great fight is not even mentioned in the Old Testament.

97:9.19 New trouble started when King Ahab tried to buy land from Naboth. His Phoenician wife forged Ahab's name to papers directing that Naboth's land be confiscated on the charge that he had blasphemed the names of "Elohim and the king." He and his sons were promptly executed. The vigorous Elijah appeared on the scene denouncing Ahab for the murder of the Naboths. Thus Elijah, one of the greatest of the prophets, began his teaching as a defender of the old land mores as against the land-selling attitude of the Baalim, against the attempt of the cities to dominate the country. But the reform did not succeed until the country landlord Jehu joined forces with the gypsy chieftain Jehonadab to destroy the prophets (real estate agents) of Baal at Samaria.

97:9.20 New life appeared as Jehoash and his son Jeroboam delivered Israel from its enemies. But by this time there ruled in Samaria a gangster-nobility whose depredations rivaled those of the Davidic dynasty of olden days. State and church went along hand in hand. The attempt to suppress freedom of speech led Elijah, Amos, and Hosea to begin their secret writing, and this was the real beginning of the Jewish and Christian Bibles.

97:9.21 But the northern kingdom did not vanish from history until the king of Israel conspired with the king of Egypt and refused to pay further tribute to Assyria. Then began the three years' siege followed by the total dispersion of the northern kingdom. Ephraim (Israel) thus vanished. Judah—the Jews, the "remnant of Israel"—had begun the concentration of land in the hands of the few, as Isaiah said, "Adding house to house and field to field." Presently there was in Jerusalem a temple of Baal alongside the temple of Yahweh. This reign of terror was ended by a monotheistic revolt led by the boy king Joash, who crusaded for Yahweh for thirty-five years.

97:9.22 The next king, Amaziah, had trouble with the revolting tax-paying Edomites and their neighbors. After a signal victory he turned to attack his northern neighbors and was just as signally defeated. Then the rural folk revolted; they assassinated the king and put his sixteen-year-old son on the throne. This was Azariah, called Uzziah by Isaiah. After Uzziah, things went from bad to worse, and Judah existed for a hundred years by paying tribute to the kings of Assyria. Isaiah the first told them that Jerusalem, being the city of Yahweh, would never fall. But Jeremiah did not hesitate to proclaim its downfall.

97:9.23 The real undoing of Judah was effected by a corrupt and rich ring of politicians operating under the rule of a boy king, Manasseh. The changing economy favored the return of the worship of Baal, whose private land dealings were against the ideology of Yahweh. The fall of Assyria and the ascendancy of Egypt brought deliverance to Judah for a time, and the country folk took over. Under Josiah they destroyed the Jerusalem ring of corrupt politicians. *

97:9.24 But this era came to a tragic end when Josiah presumed to go out to intercept Necho's mighty army as it moved up the coast from Egypt for the aid of Assyria against Babylon. He was wiped out, and Judah went under tribute to Egypt. The Baal political party returned to power in Jerusalem, and thus began the real Egyptian bondage. Then ensued a period in which the Baalim politicians controlled both the courts and the priesthood. Baal worship was an economic and social system dealing with property rights as well as having to do with soil fertility.

Flight of The Prisoners by James Tissot 97:9.25 With the overthrow of Necho by Nebuchadnezzar, Judah fell under the rule of Babylon and was given ten years of grace, but soon rebelled. When Nebuchadnezzar came against them, the Judahites started social reforms, such as releasing slaves, to influence Yahweh. When the Babylonian army temporarily withdrew, the Hebrews rejoiced that their magic of reform had delivered them. It was during this period that Jeremiah told them of the impending doom, and presently Nebuchadnezzar returned.

97:9.26 And so the end of Judah came suddenly. The city was destroyed, and the people were carried away into Babylon. The Yahweh-Baal struggle ended with the captivity. And the captivity shocked the remnant of Israel into monotheism.

97:9.27 In Babylon the Jews arrived at the conclusion that they could not exist as a small group in Palestine, having their own peculiar social and economic customs, and that, if their ideologies were to prevail, they must convert the gentiles. Thus originated their new concept of destiny—the idea that the Jews must become the chosen servants of Yahweh. The Jewish religion of the Old Testament really evolved in Babylon during the captivity.

97:9.28 The doctrine of immortality also took form at Babylon. The Jews had thought that the idea of the future life detracted from the emphasis of their gospel of social justice. Now for the first time theology displaced sociology and economics. Religion was taking shape as a system of human thought and conduct more and more to be separated from politics, sociology, and economics.

97:9.29 And so does the truth about the Jewish people disclose that much which has been regarded as sacred history turns out to be little more than the chronicle of ordinary profane history. Judaism was the soil out of which Christianity grew, but the Jews were not a miraculous people.
 

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Anywho... You guys just keep on truckin’ your way into nothingness, thinking it’s some kind of ascension to divinity and beyond, or whatever. Waste your precious lives on the vacuum of pure self-deceit. I have no issues with you doing so. Proceed. Your demise still awaits, and it won’t be at all what you think.

Cheeri-oh, boys.

The affectation is always amusing!:eek:linger: If your self important balloon ever pops inside "theoretical Christ" come on by for some normality, a cup of coffee and fellowship. We can explore the real world together.
 

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